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From: Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
Cc: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	<willy@infradead.org>, <david@redhat.com>, <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	<shy828301@gmail.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 3/3] mm: mlock: update mlock_pte_range to handle large folio
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2023 10:09:53 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <438d6f6d-2571-69d9-844e-9af9e6b4f820@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJD7tkYT6EZMwit8C9MTftUxMmuWtn2YpZ+NSVhy0xVCYuafsg@mail.gmail.com>



On 7/19/23 10:00, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 6:57 PM Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 7/19/23 09:52, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 6:32 PM Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 4:47 PM Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/19/23 06:48, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 6:58 PM Yin Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 7/17/23 08:35, Yu Zhao wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jul 16, 2023 at 6:00 PM Yin, Fengwei <fengwei.yin@intel.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/15/2023 2:06 PM, Yu Zhao wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> There is a problem here that I didn't have the time to elaborate: we
>>>>>>>>>> can't mlock() a folio that is within the range but not fully mapped
>>>>>>>>>> because this folio can be on the deferred split queue. When the split
>>>>>>>>>> happens, those unmapped folios (not mapped by this vma but are mapped
>>>>>>>>>> into other vmas) will be stranded on the unevictable lru.
>>>>>>>>> This should be fine unless I missed something. During large folio split,
>>>>>>>>> the unmap_folio() will be migrate(anon)/unmap(file) folio. Folio will be
>>>>>>>>> munlocked in unmap_folio(). So the head/tail pages will be evictable always.
>>>>>>>> It's close but not entirely accurate: munlock can fail on isolated folios.
>>>>>>> Yes. The munlock just clear PG_mlocked bit but with PG_unevictable left.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Could this also happen against normal 4K page? I mean when user try to munlock
>>>>>>> a normal 4K page and this 4K page is isolated. So it become unevictable page?
>>>>>> Looks like it can be possible. If cpu 1 is in __munlock_folio() and
>>>>>> cpu 2 is isolating the folio for any purpose:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cpu1                                        cpu2
>>>>>>                                                 isolate folio
>>>>>> folio_test_clear_lru() // 0
>>>>>>                                                 putback folio // add
>>>>>> to unevictable list
>>>>>> folio_test_clear_mlocked()
>>>>> Yes. Yu showed this sequence to me in another email. I thought the putback_lru()
>>>>> could correct the none-mlocked but unevictable folio. But it doesn't because
>>>>> of this race.
>>>> (+Hugh Dickins for vis)
>>>>
>>>> Yu, I am not familiar with the split_folio() case, so I am not sure it
>>>> is the same exact race I stated above.
>>>>
>>>> Can you confirm whether or not doing folio_test_clear_mlocked() before
>>>> folio_test_clear_lru() would fix the race you are referring to? IIUC,
>>>> in this case, we make sure we clear PG_mlocked before we try to to
>>>> clear PG_lru. If we fail to clear it, then someone else have the folio
>>>> isolated after we clear PG_mlocked, so we can be sure that when they
>>>> put the folio back it will be correctly made evictable.
>>>>
>>>> Is my understanding correct?
>>> Hmm, actually this might not be enough. In folio_add_lru() we will
>>> call folio_batch_add_and_move(), which calls lru_add_fn() and *then*
>>> sets PG_lru. Since we check folio_evictable() in lru_add_fn(), the
>>> race can still happen:
>>>
>>>
>>> cpu1                              cpu2
>>>                                       folio_evictable() //false
>>> folio_test_clear_mlocked()
>>> folio_test_clear_lru() //false
>>>                                       folio_set_lru()
>>>
>>> Relying on PG_lru for synchronization might not be enough with the
>>> current code. We might need to revert 2262ace60713 ("mm/munlock:
>>> delete smp_mb() from __pagevec_lru_add_fn()").
>>>
>>> Sorry for going back and forth here, I am thinking out loud.
>>
>> Yes. Currently, the order in lru_add_fn() is not correct.
>>
>> I think we should move folio_test_clear_lru(folio) into
>>
>> lru locked range. As the lru lock here was expected to
>>
>> use for sync here. Check the comment in lru_add_fn().
> 
> Right, I am wondering if it would be better to just revert
> 2262ace60713 and rely on the memory barrier and operations ordering
> instead of the lru lock. The lru lock is heavily contended as-is, so
> avoiding using it where possible is preferable I assume.
My understanding is set_lru after add folio to lru list is correct.
Once folio_set_lru(), others can do isolation of this folio. But if
this folio is not in lru list yet, what could happen? It's not required
to hold lru lock to do isolation.

> 
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Yin, Fengwei
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> If yes, I can add this fix to my next version of the RFC series to
>>>> rework mlock_count. It would be a lot more complicated with the
>>>> current implementation (as I stated in a previous email).
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The page would be stranded on the unevictable list in this case, no?
>>>>>> Maybe we should only try to isolate the page (clear PG_lru) after we
>>>>>> possibly clear PG_mlocked? In this case if we fail to isolate we know
>>>>>> for sure that whoever has the page isolated will observe that
>>>>>> PG_mlocked is clear and correctly make the page evictable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This probably would be complicated with the current implementation, as
>>>>>> we first need to decrement mlock_count to determine if we want to
>>>>>> clear PG_mlocked, and to do so we need to isolate the page as
>>>>>> mlock_count overlays page->lru. With the proposal in [1] to rework
>>>>>> mlock_count, it might be much simpler as far as I can tell. I intend
>>>>>> to refresh this proposal soon-ish.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1]https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20230618065719.1363271-1-yosryahmed@google.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Yin, Fengwei
>>>>>>>

  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-19  2:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-12  6:01 [RFC PATCH v2 0/3] support large folio for mlock Yin Fengwei
2023-07-12  6:01 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/3] mm: add functions folio_in_range() and folio_within_vma() Yin Fengwei
2023-07-12  6:11   ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-12  6:01 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/3] mm: handle large folio when large folio in VM_LOCKED VMA range Yin Fengwei
2023-07-12  6:23   ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-12  6:43     ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-12 17:03       ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-13  1:55         ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-14  2:21       ` Hugh Dickins
2023-07-14  2:49         ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-14  3:41           ` Hugh Dickins
2023-07-14  5:45             ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-12  6:01 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/3] mm: mlock: update mlock_pte_range to handle large folio Yin Fengwei
2023-07-12  6:31   ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-15  6:06     ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-16 23:59       ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-17  0:35         ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-17  1:58           ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-18 22:48             ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-07-18 23:47               ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-19  1:32                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-07-19  1:52                   ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-07-19  1:57                     ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-19  2:00                       ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-07-19  2:09                         ` Yin Fengwei [this message]
2023-07-19  2:22                           ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-07-19  2:28                             ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-19 14:26                               ` Hugh Dickins
2023-07-19 15:44                                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-07-20 12:02                                   ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-20 20:51                                     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-07-21  1:12                                       ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-21  1:35                                         ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-07-21  3:18                                           ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-21  3:39                                             ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-07-20  1:52                                 ` Yin, Fengwei
2023-07-17  8:12           ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-18  2:06             ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-18  3:59               ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-26 12:49       ` Yin Fengwei
2023-07-26 16:57         ` Yu Zhao
2023-07-27  0:15           ` Yin Fengwei

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