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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
To: Ravikiran G Thirumalai <kiran@scalex86.org>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <clameter@engr.sgi.com>,
	Shai Fultheim <shai@scalex86.org>,
	Nippun Goel <nippung@calsoftinc.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [rfc][patch] Avoid taking global tasklist_lock for single  threadedprocess at getrusage()
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:03:35 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <43C40507.D1A85679@tv-sign.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060109205442.GB3691@localhost.localdomain>

Ravikiran G Thirumalai wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 09:55:51PM +0300, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > Ravikiran G Thirumalai wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Don't we still need rmb for the RUSAGE_SELF case? we do not take the
> > > siglock for rusage self and the non c* signal fields are written to
> > > at __exit_signal...
> >
> > I think it is unneeded because RUSAGE_SELF case is "racy" anyway even
> > if we held both locks, task_struct->xxx counters can change at any
> > moment.
> >
> > But may be you are right.
> 
> Hmm...access to task_struct->xxx has been racy, but accessing the
> signal->* counters were not.  What if read of the signal->utime  was  a
> hoisted read and signal->stime was a read after the counter is updated?
> This was not a possibility earlier no?

Sorry, I can't undestand. Could you please be more verbose ?

> >
> > > What is wrong with optimizing by not taking the siglock in RUSAGE_BOTH
> > > and RUSAGE_CHILDREN?  I would like to add that in too unless  I am
> > > missing something and the optimization is incorrect.
> >
> > We can't have contention on ->siglock when need_lock == 0, so why should
> > we optimize this case?
> 
> We would be saving 1 buslocked operation in that case (on some arches), a
> cacheline fetch for exclusive (since signal and sighand are on different memory
> locations), and disabling/enabling onchip interrupts.  But yes, this would be a
> smaller optimization....Unless you have strong objections this can also
> go in?

I don't have strong objections, but I am not a maintainer.

However, do you have any numbers or thoughts why this optimization
can make any _visible_ effect?

Oleg.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-01-10 17:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-24 17:52 [rfc][patch] Avoid taking global tasklist_lock for single threaded process " Oleg Nesterov
2005-12-27 20:21 ` Christoph Lameter
2005-12-28 12:38   ` [rfc][patch] Avoid taking global tasklist_lock for single threadedprocess " Oleg Nesterov
2005-12-28 18:33     ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-12-28 22:57       ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2005-12-30 17:57         ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-01-04 23:16           ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-01-05 19:17             ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-01-06  9:46               ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-01-06 17:23                 ` Christoph Lameter
2006-01-06 19:46                   ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-03-20 18:04                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-03-22 22:18                       ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-03-23 18:18                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-01-06 23:52                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-01-08 11:49                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-01-08 19:58                   ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-01-09 18:55                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-01-09 20:54                       ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-01-10 19:03                         ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2006-01-16 20:56                           ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-01-17 19:59                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-01-17 19:52                               ` Ravikiran G Thirumalai
2006-01-18  9:17                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-01-03 18:18         ` Christoph Lameter

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