From: Helge Hafting <helge.hafting@aitel.hist.no>
To: Cynbe ru Taren <cynbe@muq.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: FYI: RAID5 unusably unstable through 2.6.14
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:54:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43CE1E52.3030907@aitel.hist.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1EywcM-0004Oz-IE@laurel.muq.org>
Cynbe ru Taren wrote:
>Just in case the RAID5 maintainers aren't aware of it:
>
>The current Linux kernel RAID5 implementation is just
>too fragile to be used for most of the applications
>where it would be most useful.
>
>In principle, RAID5 should allow construction of a
>disk-based store which is considerably MORE reliable
>than any individual drive.
>
>In my experience, at least, using Linux RAID5 results
>in a disk storage system which is considerably LESS
>reliable than the underlying drives.
>
>What happens repeatedly, at least in my experience over
>a variety of boxes running a variety of 2.4 and 2.6
>Linux kernel releases, is that any transient I/O problem
>results in a critical mass of RAID5 drives being marked
>'failed',
>
What kind of "transient io error" would that be?
That is not supposed to happen regularly. . .
You do replace failed drives immediately? Allowing
systems to run "for a while" in degraded mode is
surely a recipe for disaster. Degraded mode
has no safety at all, it is just raid-0 with a performance
overhead added in. :-/
Having hot spares is a nice way of replacing the failed
drive quickly.
>at which point there is no longer any supported
>way of retrieving the data on the RAID5 device, even
>though the underlying drives are all fine, and the underlying
>data on those drives almost certainly intact.
>
>
As other have showed - "mdadm" can reassemble your
broken raid - and it'll work well in those cases where
the underlying drives indeed are ok. It will fail
spectacularly if you have a real double fault though,
but then nothing short of raid-6 can save you.
Helge Hafting
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-01-18 10:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-01-17 19:35 Cynbe ru Taren
2006-01-17 19:39 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2006-01-17 20:13 ` Martin Drab
2006-01-17 23:39 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-18 2:30 ` Martin Drab
2006-02-02 20:33 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-03 0:57 ` Martin Drab
2006-02-03 1:13 ` Martin Drab
2006-02-03 15:41 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-03 16:13 ` Martin Drab
2006-02-03 16:38 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-03 17:22 ` Roger Heflin
2006-02-03 19:38 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-03 17:51 ` Martin Drab
2006-02-03 19:10 ` Roger Heflin
2006-02-03 19:12 ` Martin Drab
2006-02-03 19:41 ` Phillip Susi
2006-02-03 19:45 ` Martin Drab
2006-01-17 19:56 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-17 19:58 ` David R
2006-01-17 20:00 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-17 23:27 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-18 0:12 ` Kyle Moffett
2006-01-18 11:24 ` Erik Mouw
2006-01-18 0:21 ` Phillip Susi
2006-01-18 0:29 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-18 2:10 ` Phillip Susi
2006-01-18 3:01 ` Michael Loftis
2006-01-18 16:49 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-01-18 16:47 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-02-02 22:10 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-02-08 21:58 ` Pavel Machek
2006-01-18 10:54 ` Helge Hafting [this message]
2006-01-18 16:15 ` Mark Lord
2006-01-18 17:32 ` Alan Cox
2006-01-19 15:59 ` Mark Lord
2006-01-19 16:25 ` Alan Cox
2006-02-08 14:46 ` Alan Cox
2006-01-18 23:37 ` Neil Brown
2006-01-19 15:53 ` Mark Lord
2006-01-19 0:13 ` Neil Brown
2006-02-03 17:00 Salyzyn, Mark
2006-02-03 17:39 ` Martin Drab
2006-02-03 19:46 ` Phillip Susi
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