From: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: linux@horizon.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sct@redhat.com
Subject: Re: msync() behaviour broken for MS_ASYNC, revert patch?
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:52:15 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43EC1BFF.1080808@yahoo.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060209204314.2dae2814.akpm@osdl.org>
Andrew Morton wrote:
> Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>>>Secondly, consider the behaviour of the above application if it is modifying
>>
>> > the same page relatively frequently (quite likely). If MS_ASYNC starts I/O
>> > immediately, that page will get written 10, 100 or 1000 times per second.
>> > If MS_ASYNC leaves it to pdflush, that page gets written once per 30
>> > seconds, so we do far much less I/O.
>> >
>> > We just don't know. It's better to leave it up to the application designer
>> > rather than lumping too many operations into the one syscall.
>>
>> Well it remains the same conceptual operation (asynchronously "schedule"
>> dirty pages for writeout). However it simply becomes more useful to start
>> the writeout immediately, given that's the (pretty explicit) hint that is
>> given to us.
>
>
> If you want to start the I/O now, fine, start the I/O now.
>
> If you don't want to start I/O now, fine, don't start I/O now.
>
> If msync() were to unconditionally start I/O, you don't get that option.
>
Huh? Sure you do.
If you want to start the IO *now* without waiting on it, call msync(MS_ASYNC)
If you don't want to start the IO now, that's really easy, do nothing.
If you want to start the IO now and also wait for it to finish, call msync(MS_SYNC)
Presently, the first option is unavailable.
> It's pretty simple, isn't it?
>
Yes.
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Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-02-09 7:18 linux
2006-02-09 8:18 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-09 8:35 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-09 8:42 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-09 12:38 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-09 12:39 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-09 17:48 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 3:36 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 3:50 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 3:57 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 4:13 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 4:30 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 4:43 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 4:52 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2006-02-10 5:13 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 5:29 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 5:50 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 6:03 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 6:13 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 6:31 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 6:46 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 6:57 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 7:14 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 12:41 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 16:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 17:00 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 17:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 17:35 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 17:59 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 18:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 19:29 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 19:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 19:52 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 20:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-11 5:49 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 16:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 16:37 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 17:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 17:37 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 18:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 18:38 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 19:05 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 19:34 ` Oliver Neukum
2006-02-10 19:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 20:11 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 21:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 21:28 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-10 20:03 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 21:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 21:55 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-02-10 22:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 23:02 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-02-10 23:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-11 19:07 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-02-10 17:29 ` linux
2006-02-10 17:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-02-10 18:57 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 8:00 ` linux
2006-02-10 13:18 ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-10 7:15 ` linux
2006-02-10 7:28 ` Andrew Morton
2006-02-09 11:18 ` linux
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-03-31 22:16 Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-03-31 22:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-03-31 23:41 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 0:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-01 0:30 ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-01 15:40 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 16:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2004-04-01 16:33 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 16:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-01 16:57 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-01 18:51 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-31 22:53 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-31 23:20 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-16 22:35 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-19 21:54 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2004-04-21 2:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2004-04-21 9:52 ` Stephen C. Tweedie
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