From: Niklas Schnelle <niks@kernel.org>
To: Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>
Cc: "Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, "Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
"Lorenzo Pieralisi" <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
"Krzysztof Wilczy??ski" <kw@linux.com>,
"Maciej W . Rozycki" <macro@orcam.me.uk>,
"Jonathan Cameron" <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>,
"Alexandru Gagniuc" <mr.nuke.me@gmail.com>,
"Krishna chaitanya chundru" <quic_krichai@quicinc.com>,
"Srinivas Pandruvada" <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>,
"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
"Smita Koralahalli" <Smita.KoralahalliChannabasappa@amd.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Daniel Lezcano" <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
"Amit Kucheria" <amitk@kernel.org>,
"Zhang Rui" <rui.zhang@intel.com>,
"Christophe JAILLET" <christophe.jaillet@wanadoo.fr>,
"Mika Westerberg" <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 6/9] PCI/bwctrl: Re-add BW notification portdrv as PCIe BW controller
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2024 19:18:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <43fc3e56e969be45278054e9adb91419668bd762.camel@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z1R4VNwCOlh9Sg9n@wunner.de>
On Sat, 2024-12-07 at 17:31 +0100, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> [cc += Mika, start of thread:
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/db8e457fcd155436449b035e8791a8241b0df400.camel@kernel.org/
> ]
>
> On Sat, Dec 07, 2024 at 12:06:49AM +0100, Niklas Schnelle wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 2024-12-06 at 19:12 +0100, Niklas Schnelle wrote:
> > > > > I bisected a v6.13-rc1 boot hang on my personal workstation to this
> > > > > patch. Sadly I don't have much details like a panic or so because the
> > > > > boot hangs before any kernel messages, or at least they're not visible
> > > > > long enough to see. I haven't yet looked into the code as I wanted to
> > > > > raise awareness first. Since the commit doesn't revert cleanly on
> > > > > v6.13-rc1 I also haven't tried that yet.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here are some details on my system:
> > > > > - AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
> > > > > - ASRock X570 Creator Motherboard
> > > > > - Radeon RX 5600 XT
> > > > > - Intel JHL7540 Thunderbolt 3 USB Controller (only USB 2 plugged)
> > > > > - Intel 82599 10 Gigabit NIC with SR-IOV enabled with 2 VFs
> > > > > - Intel n I211 Gigabit NIC
> > > > > - Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200
> > > > > - Aquantia AQtion AQC107 NIC
> >
> > Ok did some fiddeling and it's the thunderbolt ports. The below diff
> > works around the issue. That said I guess for a proper fix this would
> > should get filtered by the port service matching? Also as can be seen
> > in lspci the port still claims to support bandwidth management so maybe
> > other thunderbolt ports actually do.
> [...]
> > --- a/drivers/pci/pcie/bwctrl.c
> > +++ b/drivers/pci/pcie/bwctrl.c
> > @@ -294,6 +294,9 @@ static int pcie_bwnotif_probe(struct pcie_device *srv)
> > struct pci_dev *port = srv->port;
> > int ret;
> >
> > + if (srv->port->is_thunderbolt)
> > + return -EOPNOTSUPP;
> > +
>
> Thanks for reporting and analyzing this.
>
> The PCIe bandwidth controller is only instantiated on Downstream Ports.
> Per the spec, Thunderbolt PCIe Downstream Ports are just tunnel endpoints
> with a fake Max Link Speed of 2.5 GT/s (USB4 v2 sec 11.2.1):
>
> "Max Link Speed field in the Link Capabilities Register set to 0001b
> (data rate of 2.5 GT/s only).
> Note: These settings do not represent actual throughput.
> Throughput is implementation specific and based on the USB4 Fabric
> performance."
>
> So your patch does make sense in so far as the link speed of Thunderbolt
> PCIe Downstream Ports is fixed to 2.5 GT/s and cannot be throttled because
> that's already the lowest possible PCIe speed. The actual speed is
> determined by the Thunderbolt links.
>
> The check for the is_thunderbolt bit should be moved to the if-clause in
> get_port_device_capability() which sets the PCIE_PORT_SERVICE_BWCTRL bit
> in the services mask.
>
> Alternatively, it may be worth considering not to instantiate the
> bandwidth controller if the only link speed supported is 2.5 GT/s.
Thanks for the great explanation. I think your last point is also a
good one, if 2.5 GT/s is the only possible link speed why even
instantiate the bandwidth controller. As get_port_device_capability()
already reads PCI_EXP_LNKCAP we also have that information right there
already. Since I put time and effort in already I've gone ahead and
cooked up a patch with this approach and will send that shortly.
>
> We should try to find out what actually causes the boot hang
> (some interrupt storm maybe?), but that can hopefully be done
> internally at Intel if the boot hang is reproducible.
Makes sense, I do remember that this was one of very few motherboards
for AMD CPUs with Thunderbolt.
Thanks,
Niklas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-07 18:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-18 14:47 [PATCH v9 0/9] PCI: Add PCIe bandwidth controller Ilpo Järvinen
2024-10-18 14:47 ` [PATCH v9 1/9] Documentation PCI: Reformat RMW ops documentation Ilpo Järvinen
2024-10-18 14:47 ` [PATCH v9 2/9] PCI: Protect Link Control 2 Register with RMW locking Ilpo Järvinen
2024-10-18 14:47 ` [PATCH v9 3/9] PCI: Store all PCIe Supported Link Speeds Ilpo Järvinen
2024-11-11 13:23 ` Lukas Wunner
2024-11-11 20:30 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-11-12 9:20 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-10-18 14:47 ` [PATCH v9 4/9] PCI: Refactor pcie_update_link_speed() Ilpo Järvinen
2024-10-18 14:47 ` [PATCH v9 5/9] PCI/quirks: Abstract LBMS seen check into own function Ilpo Järvinen
2024-10-18 14:47 ` [PATCH v9 6/9] PCI/bwctrl: Re-add BW notification portdrv as PCIe BW controller Ilpo Järvinen
2024-12-06 18:12 ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-12-06 19:31 ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-12-06 20:07 ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-12-06 23:06 ` Niklas Schnelle
2024-12-07 16:31 ` Lukas Wunner
2024-12-07 18:18 ` Niklas Schnelle [this message]
2025-01-02 21:30 ` Lukas Wunner
2024-10-18 14:47 ` [PATCH v9 7/9] PCI/bwctrl: Add API to set PCIe Link Speed Ilpo Järvinen
2024-11-12 15:47 ` Lukas Wunner
2024-11-12 16:01 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-11-18 13:03 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-11-18 13:17 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-11-20 15:36 ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-11-12 20:43 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-01-02 10:38 ` Lukas Wunner
2025-01-05 16:43 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-10-18 14:47 ` [PATCH v9 8/9] thermal: Add PCIe cooling driver Ilpo Järvinen
2024-11-13 8:44 ` Lukas Wunner
2024-11-15 17:28 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-10-18 14:47 ` [PATCH v9 9/9] selftests/pcie_bwctrl: Create selftests Ilpo Järvinen
2024-10-23 22:19 ` [PATCH v9 0/9] PCI: Add PCIe bandwidth controller Bjorn Helgaas
2024-11-13 21:48 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-11-14 8:46 ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2024-11-14 12:32 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-11-14 17:36 ` Krzysztof Wilczyński
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