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From: Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>
To: Fabricio Akio <fabricioakio@gmail.com>
Cc: Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konradybcio@kernel.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Abel Vesa <abelvesa@kernel.org>,
	Alexey Minnekhanov <alexeymin@postmarketos.org>,
	Dmitry Baryshkov <lumag@kernel.org>,
	Martin Botka <martin.botka@somainline.org>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dts: qcom: sdm630: Drop the cluster idle states
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2026 14:44:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4455607d-53b1-46fc-934f-7e7ae8f4f3d8@oss.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANxzQdH3eC97bb+eef=wizrxoB4XfvROzg8iHFxCrN_a+TZiSg@mail.gmail.com>

On 10/20/26 6:15 PM, Fabricio Akio wrote:
> On 10/15/26 3:51 PM, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
>> I threw an LLM at the downstream tree and it decoded the states to:
>>
>> C2D, no cluster state    2        0x00000002
>> C3, no cluster state    3        0x40000003
>> pwr/perf L2 D2D + C2D    L2 2        0x01000022
>> pwr/perf L2 D2D + C3    L2 2        0x41000023
>> pwr/perf L2 D2E + C3    L2 3        0x41000033
>> pwr/perf L2 D4 + C3    L2 4        0x41000043
>> System PC + L2 D4 + C3    sys3, L2 4    0x42000343
>>
>> sorry for getting it wrong years ago!
> 
> Thanks! I had decoded the same values, but I didn't just put them in
> place of the old ones. This firmware supports OS-initiated mode and
> refuses platform-coordinated mode ("psci: [Firmware Bug]: failed to
> set PC mode: -3", PSCI DENIED). In OS-initiated mode a cluster state
> may only be requested by the last running CPU of the cluster, which a
> flat cpu-idle-states list cannot express. I tried it: with 0x41000043
> in the flat list the firmware returns DENIED to nearly every request,
> accepting only the few that come from a cluster's last running CPU,
> and the idle CPUs spin on it again, at about twice the battery current.
> Linux runs OSI only with the CPUs described as PSCI power domains,
> with 0x41000043 as each cluster's domain-idle-state and 0x42000343 for
> system power collapse above them. I'm working on that, but I'm not
> sure yet when it will be ready, so this is not a placeholder for a
> replacement coming right behind it.

See:

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-msm/20261015-b4-shikra_lpm_addition-v2-0-ac7f1a0d5638@oss.qualcomm.com/

https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20261005-s2idle_state-v1-0-3c402c66f388@oss.qualcomm.com/

> Dropping the states is not the complete fix, but it helps now, because
> as they are they do harm: cpuidle records no successful entry into any
> of them, and since the deepest of them is what an idle CPU picks, each
> failed request is retried instead of sleeping. On the Moto X4
> that is about 133,000 failed entries per second with the screen off,
> and the battery current goes from 277 mA to about 115 mA without them.
> 
> Is dropping them first OK with you?

Temporarily, yes

Konrad


  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-23 12:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-12  2:18 [PATCH 0/2] arm64: dts: qcom: sdm630: Fix the CPU " Fabricio Akio via B4 Relay
2026-10-12  2:18 ` [PATCH 1/2] arm64: dts: qcom: sdm630: Drop the cluster " Fabricio Akio via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 13:51   ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-10-20 16:15     ` Fabricio Akio
2026-10-23 12:44       ` Konrad Dybcio [this message]
2026-10-23 16:27       ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-10-12  2:18 ` [PATCH 2/2] arm64: dts: qcom: sdm630: Fix the CPU retention idle state parameter Fabricio Akio via B4 Relay
2026-10-15 13:41   ` Konrad Dybcio

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