From: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
To: Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>, Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>,
"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] lib/dlock-list: Scale dlock_lists_empty()
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2017 13:57:10 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4486fb94-a9fc-5bee-5241-e1e7558eeaa7@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C189B9DE-0845-4EC9-9D96-4815EF9E3F8B@dilger.ca>
On 11/07/2017 12:59 PM, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> On Nov 7, 2017, at 4:59 AM, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
>> On Mon 06-11-17 10:47:08, Davidlohr Bueso wrote:
>>> + /*
>>> + * Serialize dlist->used_lists such that a 0->1 transition is not
>>> + * missed by another thread checking if any of the dlock lists are
>>> + * used.
>>> + *
>>> + * CPU0 CPU1
>>> + * dlock_list_add() dlock_lists_empty()
>>> + * [S] atomic_inc(used_lists);
>>> + * smp_mb__after_atomic();
>>> + * smp_mb__before_atomic();
>>> + * [L] atomic_read(used_lists)
>>> + * list_add()
>>> + */
>>> + smp_mb__before_atomic();
>>> + return !atomic_read(&dlist->used_lists);
> Just a general kernel programming question here - I thought the whole point
> of atomics is that they are, well, atomic across all CPUs so there is no
> need for a memory barrier? If there is a need for a memory barrier for
> each atomic access (assuming it isn't accessed under another lock, which would
> make the use of atomic types pointless, IMHO) then I'd think there is a lot
> of code in the kernel that isn't doing this properly.
>
> What am I missing here?
Atomic update and memory barrier are 2 different things. Atomic update
means other CPUs see either the value before or after the update. They
won't see anything in between. For a counter, it means we won't miss any
counts. However, not all atomic operations give an ordering guarantee.
The atomic_read() and atomic_inc() are examples that do not provide
memory ordering guarantee. See Documentation/memory-barriers.txt for
more information about it.
A CPU can perform atomic operations 1 & 2 in program order, but other
CPUs may see operation 2 first before operation 1. Here memory barrier
can be used to guarantee that other CPUs see the memory updates in
certain order.
Hope this help.
Longman
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-07 18:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-31 18:50 [PATCH v8 0/6] vfs: Use dlock list for SB's s_inodes list Waiman Long
2017-10-31 18:50 ` [PATCH v8 1/6] lib/dlock-list: Distributed and lock-protected lists Waiman Long
2017-10-31 21:37 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2017-11-01 18:44 ` Waiman Long
2017-11-02 17:04 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2017-11-02 17:30 ` Waiman Long
2017-11-03 13:34 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2017-11-03 14:22 ` [PATCH v3] lib/dlock-list: Scale dlock_lists_empty() Davidlohr Bueso
2017-11-03 16:33 ` Waiman Long
2017-11-06 18:47 ` [PATCH v4] " Davidlohr Bueso
2017-11-06 19:06 ` Waiman Long
2017-11-07 11:59 ` Jan Kara
2017-11-07 17:59 ` Andreas Dilger
2017-11-07 18:57 ` Waiman Long [this message]
2017-11-07 19:36 ` James Bottomley
2017-11-08 2:08 ` Boqun Feng
2017-11-09 17:24 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2017-11-09 17:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-29 15:29 ` [PATCH v8 1/6] lib/dlock-list: Distributed and lock-protected lists Davidlohr Bueso
2017-10-31 18:50 ` [PATCH v8 2/6] vfs: Remove unnecessary list_for_each_entry_safe() variants Waiman Long
2017-10-31 18:50 ` [PATCH v8 3/6] vfs: Use dlock list for superblock's inode list Waiman Long
2017-10-31 18:50 ` [PATCH v8 4/6] lib/dlock-list: Make sibling CPUs share the same linked list Waiman Long
2017-11-01 8:38 ` Jan Kara
2017-10-31 18:50 ` [PATCH v8 5/6] lib/dlock-list: Enable faster lookup with hashing Waiman Long
2017-11-01 8:40 ` Jan Kara
2017-11-01 13:16 ` Waiman Long
2017-10-31 18:51 ` [PATCH v8 6/6] lib/dlock-list: Add an IRQ-safe mode to be used in interrupt handler Waiman Long
2017-10-31 21:29 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2017-11-29 15:26 ` [PATCH v8 0/6] vfs: Use dlock list for SB's s_inodes list Davidlohr Bueso
2017-11-29 15:31 ` Waiman Long
2018-02-26 2:47 ` Dave Chinner
2018-02-26 4:05 ` Waiman Long
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