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From: Ian Stirling <tandra@mauve.plus.com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Cc: yunfeng zhang <zyf.zeroos@gmail.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Improvement on memory subsystem
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 10:18:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <44BDF8F4.30908@mauve.plus.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200607181218.k6ICIgeS027067@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>

Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:03:54 +0800, yunfeng zhang said:
> 
> 
>>2. Read-ahead process during page-in/out (page fault or swap out) should be
>>based on its VMA to enhance IO efficiency instead of the relative physical pages
>>in swap space.
> 
> 
> But wouldn't that end up causing a seek storm, rather than handling the pages
> in the order that minimizes the total seek distance, no matter where they are
> in memory? Remember - if you have a 2Ghz processor, and a disk that seeks in 1
> millisecond, every seek is (*very* roughly) about 2 million instructions.  So
> if we can burn 20 thousand instructions finding a read order that eliminates
> *one* seek, we're 1.98M instructions ahead.

To paraphrase shakespear - all the world is not a P4 - and all the swap 
devices are not hard disks.

For example - I've got a 486/33 laptop with 12M RAM that I sometimes use 
, with swapping to a 128M PCMCIA RAM card that I got from somewhere.

20K instructions wasted on a device with no seek time is just annoying.

And on my main laptop - I have experimented with swap-over-wifi to a 
large ramdisk on my server - which works quite well. (until the wifi 
connection falls over).

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-07-19  9:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-18 10:03 yunfeng zhang
2006-07-18 12:18 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-19  3:44   ` yunfeng zhang
2006-07-19  9:18   ` Ian Stirling [this message]
2006-07-19 14:56     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-18 16:25 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-07-19  3:21   ` yunfeng zhang
2006-07-19  8:30     ` Pekka Enberg
2006-07-19 10:13       ` yunfeng zhang
2006-07-19 10:35         ` Pekka Enberg
2006-07-24  9:01 ` yunfeng zhang
2006-07-24 14:55   ` David Lang
2006-07-25  8:33     ` yunfeng zhang
2006-08-23 10:39 ` yunfeng zhang

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