From: Shenming Lu <lushenming@huawei.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.org>,
Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>, <wanghaibin.wang@huawei.com>,
<yuzenghui@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 0/4] vfio: Add IOPF support for VFIO passthrough
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 17:30:58 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44a8b643-6920-b2b5-a593-2942b5ea4ee7@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210129155730.3a1d49c5@omen.home.shazbot.org>
On 2021/1/30 6:57, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 17:03:58 +0800
> Shenming Lu <lushenming@huawei.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The static pinning and mapping problem in VFIO and possible solutions
>> have been discussed a lot [1, 2]. One of the solutions is to add I/O
>> page fault support for VFIO devices. Different from those relatively
>> complicated software approaches such as presenting a vIOMMU that provides
>> the DMA buffer information (might include para-virtualized optimizations),
>> IOPF mainly depends on the hardware faulting capability, such as the PCIe
>> PRI extension or Arm SMMU stall model. What's more, the IOPF support in
>> the IOMMU driver is being implemented in SVA [3]. So do we consider to
>> add IOPF support for VFIO passthrough based on the IOPF part of SVA at
>> present?
>>
>> We have implemented a basic demo only for one stage of translation (GPA
>> -> HPA in virtualization, note that it can be configured at either stage),
>> and tested on Hisilicon Kunpeng920 board. The nested mode is more complicated
>> since VFIO only handles the second stage page faults (same as the non-nested
>> case), while the first stage page faults need to be further delivered to
>> the guest, which is being implemented in [4] on ARM. My thought on this
>> is to report the page faults to VFIO regardless of the occured stage (try
>> to carry the stage information), and handle respectively according to the
>> configured mode in VFIO. Or the IOMMU driver might evolve to support more...
>>
>> Might TODO:
>> - Optimize the faulting path, and measure the performance (it might still
>> be a big issue).
>> - Add support for PRI.
>> - Add a MMU notifier to avoid pinning.
>> - Add support for the nested mode.
>> ...
>>
>> Any comments and suggestions are very welcome. :-)
>
> I expect performance to be pretty bad here, the lookup involved per
> fault is excessive.
We might consider to prepin more pages as a further optimization.
> There are cases where a user is not going to be
> willing to have a slow ramp up of performance for their devices as they
> fault in pages, so we might need to considering making this
> configurable through the vfio interface.
Yeah, makes sense, I will try to implement this: maybe add a ioctl called
VFIO_IOMMU_ENABLE_IOPF for Type1 VFIO IOMMU...
> Our page mapping also only
> grows here, should mappings expire or do we need a least recently
> mapped tracker to avoid exceeding the user's locked memory limit? How
> does a user know what to set for a locked memory limit?
Yeah, we can add a LRU(mapped) tracker to release the pages when exceeding
a memory limit, maybe have a thread to periodically check this.
And as for the memory limit, maybe we could give the user some levels
(10%(default)/30%/50%/70%/unlimited of the total user memory (mapping size))
to choose from via the VFIO_IOMMU_ENABLE_IOPF ioctl...
> The behavior
> here would lead to cases where an idle system might be ok, but as soon
> as load increases with more inflight DMA, we start seeing
> "unpredictable" I/O faults from the user perspective.
"unpredictable" I/O faults? We might see more problems after more testing...
Thanks,
Shenming
> Seems like there
> are lots of outstanding considerations and I'd also like to hear from
> the SVA folks about how this meshes with their work. Thanks,
>
> Alex
>
> .
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-01-30 9:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-01-25 9:03 Shenming Lu
2021-01-25 9:03 ` [RFC PATCH v1 1/4] vfio/type1: Add a bitmap to track IOPF mapped pages Shenming Lu
2021-01-29 22:58 ` Alex Williamson
2021-01-30 9:31 ` Shenming Lu
2021-01-25 9:04 ` [RFC PATCH v1 2/4] vfio: Add a page fault handler Shenming Lu
2021-01-27 17:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-01-28 6:10 ` Shenming Lu
2021-01-25 9:04 ` [RFC PATCH v1 3/4] vfio: Try to enable IOPF for VFIO devices Shenming Lu
2021-01-29 22:42 ` Alex Williamson
2021-01-30 9:31 ` Shenming Lu
2021-01-25 9:04 ` [RFC PATCH v1 4/4] vfio: Allow to pin and map dynamically Shenming Lu
2021-01-29 22:57 ` [RFC PATCH v1 0/4] vfio: Add IOPF support for VFIO passthrough Alex Williamson
2021-01-30 9:30 ` Shenming Lu [this message]
2021-02-01 7:56 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-02-02 6:41 ` Shenming Lu
2021-02-04 6:52 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-02-05 10:37 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2021-02-07 8:20 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-02-07 11:47 ` Shenming Lu
2021-02-09 11:06 ` Liu, Yi L
2021-02-10 8:02 ` Shenming Lu
2021-03-18 7:53 ` Shenming Lu
2021-03-18 9:07 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-03-18 11:53 ` Shenming Lu
2021-03-18 12:32 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-03-18 12:47 ` Shenming Lu
2021-03-19 0:33 ` Lu Baolu
2021-03-19 1:30 ` Keqian Zhu
2021-03-20 1:35 ` Lu Baolu
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