From: "Miquel van Smoorenburg" <miquels@cistron.nl>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [take25 1/6] kevent: Description.
Date: 24 Nov 2006 13:07:26 GMT [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4566ee8e$0$335$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45663298.7000108@redhat.com>
In article <45663298.7000108@redhat.com>,
Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com> wrote:
>Jeff Garzik wrote:
>> Considering current designs, it seems more likely that a single thread
>> polls for socket activity, then dispatches work. How often do you
>> really see in userland multiple threads polling the same set of fds,
>> then fighting to decide who will handle raised events?
>>
>> More likely, you will see "prefork" (start N threads, each with its own
>> ring) or a worker pool (single thread receives events, then dispatches
>> to multiple threads for execution) or even one-thread-per-fd (single
>> thread receives events, then starts new thread for handling).
>
>No, absolutely not. This is exactly not what should/is/will happen.
>
>You create worker threads to handle to work for the entire program.
>Look at something like a web server. When creating several queues, how
>do you distribute all the connections to the different queues? To
>ensure every connection is handled as quickly as possible you stuff them
>all in the same queue and then have all threads use this one queue.
>Whenever an event is posted a thread is woken. _One_ thread. If two
>events are posted, two threads are woken. In this situation we have a
>few atomic ops at userlevel to make sure that the two threads don't pick
>the same event but that's all there is wrt "fighting".
What you really want is if one thread is able to do all the work,
only keep that one thread busy. Only wake up other threads when
the currently running threads cannot handle the load.
Say you have 8 threads blocked in kevent_wait(). One or more events
become available. You wake one thread, and let it run.
If the one thread has done its work and returns to kevent_wait()
before its timeslice has run out, deliver the next event(s) (which
may already be outstanding) to the same thread, don't wake another one.
If the running thread blocks on say disk i/o, or its timeslice
runs out, the scheduler runs and wakes another thread that is
waiting in kevent_wait().
Mike.
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2006-10-27 16:10 ` [take21 0/4] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-27 16:10 ` [take21 1/4] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-27 16:10 ` [take21 2/4] kevent: poll/select() notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-27 16:10 ` [take21 3/4] kevent: Socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-27 16:10 ` [take21 4/4] kevent: Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-28 10:04 ` [take21 2/4] kevent: poll/select() notifications Eric Dumazet
2006-10-28 10:08 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-28 10:28 ` [take21 1/4] kevent: Core files Eric Dumazet
2006-10-28 10:53 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-28 12:36 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-28 13:03 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-28 13:23 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-28 13:28 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-28 13:34 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-10-28 13:47 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-10-27 16:42 ` [take21 0/4] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 11:26 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-07 11:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-07 11:58 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 11:51 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 12:17 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-07 12:29 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 12:32 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-07 19:34 ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-07 20:52 ` David Miller
2006-11-07 21:38 ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-01 11:36 ` [take22 " Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-01 11:36 ` [take22 1/4] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-01 11:36 ` [take22 2/4] kevent: poll/select() notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-01 11:36 ` [take22 3/4] kevent: Socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-01 11:36 ` [take22 4/4] kevent: Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-01 13:06 ` [take22 0/4] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Pavel Machek
2006-11-01 13:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-01 16:05 ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-01 16:24 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-01 18:13 ` Oleg Verych
2006-11-01 18:57 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-02 2:12 ` Nate Diller
[not found] ` <aaf959cb0611011829k36deda6ahe61bcb9bf8e612e1@mail.gmail.com>
2006-11-02 2:30 ` zhou drangon
2006-11-02 7:46 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-02 8:01 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-02 8:18 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-02 8:46 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-02 11:33 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-06 21:17 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-07 8:32 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 9:18 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 12:09 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-09 7:48 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-03 2:42 ` zhou drangon
2006-11-03 9:16 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-02 6:21 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-02 19:40 ` Nate Diller
2006-11-03 8:42 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-03 8:57 ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-03 9:04 ` David Miller
2006-11-07 12:05 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-03 9:13 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-05 11:19 ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-05 11:43 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 12:02 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-03 18:49 ` Oleg Verych
2006-11-04 10:24 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-04 17:47 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-01 16:07 ` James Morris
2006-11-07 16:50 ` [take23 0/5] " Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 16:50 ` [take23 1/5] kevent: Description Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 16:50 ` [take23 2/5] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 16:50 ` [take23 3/5] kevent: poll/select() notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 16:50 ` [take23 4/5] kevent: Socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 16:50 ` [take23 5/5] kevent: Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 22:53 ` [take23 3/5] kevent: poll/select() notifications Davide Libenzi
2006-11-08 8:45 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-08 17:03 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 22:16 ` [take23 2/5] kevent: Core files Andrew Morton
2006-11-08 8:24 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 22:16 ` [take23 1/5] kevent: Description Andrew Morton
2006-11-08 8:23 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-07 22:17 ` [take23 0/5] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Andrew Morton
2006-11-08 8:21 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-08 14:51 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-08 22:03 ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-08 22:44 ` Davide Libenzi
2006-11-08 23:07 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-08 23:56 ` Davide Libenzi
2006-11-09 7:24 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-09 7:52 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-09 17:12 ` Davide Libenzi
2006-11-09 8:23 ` [take24 0/6] " Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-09 8:23 ` [take24 1/6] kevent: Description Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-09 8:23 ` [take24 2/6] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-09 8:23 ` [take24 3/6] kevent: poll/select() notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-09 8:23 ` [take24 4/6] kevent: Socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-09 8:23 ` [take24 5/6] kevent: Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-09 8:23 ` [take24 6/6] kevent: Pipe notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-09 9:08 ` [take24 3/6] kevent: poll/select() notifications Eric Dumazet
2006-11-09 9:29 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-09 18:51 ` Davide Libenzi
2006-11-09 19:10 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-09 19:42 ` Davide Libenzi
2006-11-09 20:10 ` Davide Libenzi
2006-11-11 17:36 ` [take24 7/6] kevent: signal notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-11 22:28 ` [take24 0/6] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-13 10:54 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-13 11:16 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-20 0:02 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-20 8:25 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-20 8:43 ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-20 8:51 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-20 9:15 ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-20 9:19 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-20 20:29 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-20 21:46 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-20 21:52 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-21 9:09 ` Ingo Oeser
2006-11-22 11:38 ` Michael Tokarev
2006-11-22 11:47 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-22 12:33 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-21 9:53 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-21 16:58 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-21 17:43 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-21 18:46 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-21 20:01 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-22 10:41 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-21 20:19 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-22 10:39 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-22 7:38 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-22 10:44 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-22 21:02 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-23 12:23 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-23 8:52 ` Kevent POSIX timers support Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-23 20:26 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-24 9:50 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-27 18:20 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-27 18:24 ` David Miller
2006-11-27 18:36 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-27 18:49 ` David Miller
2006-11-28 9:16 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-28 19:13 ` David Miller
2006-11-28 19:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-12-12 1:36 ` David Miller
2006-12-12 5:31 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-28 9:16 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-12-13 13:21 ` Tushar Adeshara
2006-12-13 13:27 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-22 7:33 ` [take24 0/6] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-22 10:38 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-22 22:22 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-23 12:18 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-23 22:23 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-24 10:57 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-27 19:12 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-28 11:00 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-22 12:09 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-22 12:15 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-22 13:46 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-22 22:24 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-23 12:22 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-23 20:34 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-24 10:58 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-27 18:23 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-28 10:13 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-12-27 20:45 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-12-28 9:50 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-21 16:29 ` [take25 " Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-21 16:29 ` [take25 1/6] kevent: Description Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-21 16:29 ` [take25 2/6] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-21 16:29 ` [take25 3/6] kevent: poll/select() notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-21 16:29 ` [take25 4/6] kevent: Socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-21 16:29 ` [take25 5/6] kevent: Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-21 16:29 ` [take25 6/6] kevent: Pipe notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-22 11:20 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-22 11:30 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-22 23:46 ` [take25 1/6] kevent: Description Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-23 11:52 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-23 19:45 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-24 11:01 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-24 16:06 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-24 16:14 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-24 16:31 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-27 19:20 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-22 23:52 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-23 11:55 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-23 20:00 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-23 21:49 ` Hans Henrik Happe
2006-11-23 22:34 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-24 11:50 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-24 16:17 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-24 11:46 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-24 16:30 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-24 16:49 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-27 19:23 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-23 22:33 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-23 22:48 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-11-23 23:45 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-24 0:48 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-24 8:14 ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-24 8:33 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-24 15:26 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-24 13:07 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg [this message]
2006-11-24 0:14 ` Hans Henrik Happe
2006-11-24 12:05 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-24 12:13 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-27 19:43 ` Ulrich Drepper
2006-11-28 10:26 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-30 19:14 ` [take26 0/8] kevent: Generic event handling mechanism Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-30 19:14 ` [take26 1/8] kevent: Description Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-30 19:14 ` [take26 2/8] kevent: Core files Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-30 19:14 ` [take26 3/8] kevent: poll/select() notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-30 19:14 ` [take26 4/8] kevent: Socket notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-30 19:14 ` [take26 5/8] kevent: Timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-30 19:14 ` [take26 6/8] kevent: Pipe notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-30 19:14 ` [take26 7/8] kevent: Signal notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
2006-11-30 19:14 ` [take26 8/8] kevent: Kevent posix timer notifications Evgeniy Polyakov
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