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From: Thomas Davis <tdavis@nersc.gov>
To: Dumitru Ciobarcianu <Dumitru.Ciobarcianu@ines.ro>
Cc: Matti Aarnio <matti.aarnio@zmailer.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Postgrey experiment at VGER
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:25:59 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4580A827.7080200@nersc.gov> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1166001902.15211.4.camel@DustPuppy.LNX.RO>

Dumitru Ciobarcianu wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-12-13 at 01:50 +0200, Matti Aarnio wrote:
>> I do already see spammers smart enough to retry addresses from
>> the zombie machine, but that share is now below 10% of all emails.
>> My prediction for next 200 days is that most spammers get the clue,
>> but it gives us perhaps 3 months of less leaked junk.
> 
> IMHO this is only an step in an "arms race".
> What you will do in three months, remove this check because it will
> prove useless since the spammers will also retry ? If yes, why install
> it in the first place ? 
> 
> 

spammers are already re-trying; but they give up after 10 minutes. 
As the delay time increases, the chances of getting on a blacklist 
increase, which makes it easier to identify a machine as a spamming bot.

I normally let my greyfilters run at 30 minutes deny, and 72hrs of 
lease time on a IP/To/From tuplet.  This setting seams to be pretty 
effective in dropping spam; at one point, upto 10k spam vs. a couple 
hundred ham messages.

thomsa

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-12-14  2:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-12 23:50 Matti Aarnio
2006-12-13  9:25 ` Dumitru Ciobarcianu
2006-12-13 12:52   ` Trond Myklebust
2006-12-14  1:25   ` Thomas Davis [this message]
2006-12-14  5:21 ` Rick
2006-12-13 14:11 Al Boldi
2006-12-13 15:37 ` Gene Heskett
2006-12-13 16:09 ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2006-12-13 17:16   ` Horst H. von Brand
2006-12-14  4:41   ` David Rees
2006-12-15 10:56   ` Folkert van Heusden

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