From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751276AbXDLSyN (ORCPT ); Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:54:13 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751325AbXDLSyN (ORCPT ); Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:54:13 -0400 Received: from einhorn.in-berlin.de ([192.109.42.8]:43936 "EHLO einhorn.in-berlin.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751276AbXDLSyL (ORCPT ); Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:54:11 -0400 X-Envelope-From: stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de Message-ID: <461E8048.2010303@s5r6.in-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:54:00 +0200 From: Stefan Richter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.2) Gecko/20070408 SeaMonkey/1.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Robert P. J. Day" CC: Carlo Florendo , Jan Engelhardt , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: "menu" versus "menuconfig" -- they're *both* a bad idea References: <461D84EB.7040207@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Robert P. J. Day wrote: > but it should be obvious that, if you look at the Kconfig files, each > and every "select" directive has the potential to override a decision > you think you might have made elsewhere. In other words, the author of a Kconfig file should not assume he knows best how users want to configure kernels. IMO Kconfig files should be nothing more than a list of the existing options with statements how they depend on each other, plus the inline help texts, plus one default logical grouping (e.g. Drivers -> SCSI -> most of the SCSI drivers). All the rest, i.e. supporting users to get to the desired configuration, should be left to the various UIs to Kconfig --- including the bidirectional tracking of dependencies, presentation in different logical groups than the default one, etc. However, the trend here seems to be to turn Kconfig into a _program_ (a script rather than a description), and to tune that program to the needs of a subgroup of Kconfig endusers. > I'm just sayin'. Me 2. -- Stefan Richter -=====-=-=== -=-- -==-- http://arcgraph.de/sr/