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From: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>, David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Gautham Shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>, Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@o2.pl>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] make cancel_rearming_delayed_work() reliable
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 10:26:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46496EC1.3090109@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070514194446.GA159@tv-sign.ru>

Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>> Yeap, I've used the term 'clearing' as more of a logical term - making
>> the pointer invalid, but is there any reason why we can't clear the
>> pointer itself?
> 
> Because this breaks cancel_work_sync(work), it needs get_wq_data(work) for
> wait_on_work(work).

Right.  That's the other user of cached work->wq_data pointer.

> So, try_to_grab_pending() should check "VALID && pointers equal" atomically.
> We can't do "if (VALID && cwq == get_wq_data(work))". We should do something
> like this
> 
> 	(((long)cwq) | VALID | PENDING) == atomic_long_read(&work->data)
> 
> Yes? I need to think more about this.

I don't think the test for PENDING should be atomic too.  cwq pointer
and VALID is one package.  PENDING lives its own life as a atomic bit
switch.

>> I didn't really get the smp_mb__before_spinlock() thing.  How are you
>> planning to use it?  spinlock() is already a read barrier.  What do you
>> gain by making it also a write barrier?
> 
> As I said, we can shift set_wq_data() from insert_work() to __queue_work(),

OIC.

> this needs very minor changes.
> 
> BTW, in _theory_, spinlock() is not a read barrier, yes?

It actually is.

> From Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
> 
>      Memory operations that occur before a LOCK operation may appear to happen
>      after it completes.

Which means that spin_lock() isn't a write barrier.  lock is read
barrier, unlock is write barrier.  Otherwise, locking doesn't make much
sense.  If we're going the barrier way, I think we're better off with
explicit smp_wmb().  It's only barrier() on x86/64.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-15  8:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-03 20:42 Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-04  1:15 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-04 17:09   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-05 21:32   ` [PATCH] make-cancel_rearming_delayed_work-reliable-fix Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-07 10:31     ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-05-07 10:34       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-07 11:55         ` Anton Vorontsov
2007-05-07 11:33           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-08  9:16         ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-05-08 12:02           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-08 13:07             ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-05-08  7:15 ` [PATCH] make cancel_rearming_delayed_work() reliable Jarek Poplawski
2007-05-08 12:31   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-08 13:56     ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-05-08 14:05       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-08 14:32         ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-05-08 14:12       ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-05-11 13:55 ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-11 13:47   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-11 15:19     ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-11 14:53       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-12  5:50         ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-13 19:27           ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-13 20:16             ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-13 21:25               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-14 19:44               ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-15  8:26                 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2007-05-15 13:09                   ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-05-15 22:08                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-16  5:21                       ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-05-15 22:00                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-16 11:25                     ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-16 18:52                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2007-05-17  9:36                         ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-18  7:35                         ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-05-18  8:13                           ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-05-18 13:33                           ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-21  7:00                             ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-05-21  8:59                               ` Tejun Heo
2007-05-21 10:10                                 ` Jarek Poplawski

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