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From: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
To: Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@xenotime.net>
Cc: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Documentation files in html format?
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 15:10:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46BF06E1.9000302@s5r6.in-berlin.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070811201210.f5ba7d4d.rdunlap@xenotime.net>

Randy Dunlap wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 16:17:19 +0200 Willy Tarreau wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 11, 2007 at 10:19:25AM -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>>> I was just suggesting that if we took your suggestion of standardizing
>>> on plain text plus some conventions for formatting lists and headers and
>>> such, one easy way to do that might just be to adopt the asciidoc format
>>> (or some subset thereof).  Is there any part of the asciidoc *syntax*
>>> that you object to?
>> Not particularly. It's just slightly less readable as plain text but
>> OTOH produces nice documents when you have a working toolchain. But
>> that's a language which needs to be learned, as every such language.
>> Plain text on the contrary, requires no learning. The conventions are
>> more like suggestions to newcomers. Everyone is free to proceed as he
>> wants, judging by the result while writing the text.

> but if we use something richer than plain text, I think that we
> shouldn't need to invent yet another markup language.
> Just use HTML or asciidoc or MarkDown etc...

*If* we switch to a markup language instead of plaintext (or instead of
plaintext with style recommendations), then submitters should at least
be able to do basic syntax checks without having a toolchain installed.

E.g. provide a scripts/checkdocumentation.p[ly] similar in function to
scripts/checkpatch.pl.  (OK, that one requires a perl interpreter
installed, but that's a fair requirement.)

One note on asciidoc:  I experienced the same as Willy when I wanted to
build git with manpages on a distribution without prebuilt asciidoc.
And when I finally managed to build a minimum asciidoc setup, I was
bitten by a syntax change in the asciidoc language, requiring a small
change to git's documentation source to be compatible with both asciidoc
7.x and asciidoc 8.x IIRC.
-- 
Stefan Richter
-=====-=-=== =--- -==--
http://arcgraph.de/sr/

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-12 13:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-09 10:31 Stephen Hemminger
2007-08-09 10:49 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-09 13:08 ` Hans-Jürgen Koch
2007-08-09 13:22   ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-08-09 15:26   ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-09 14:37     ` Rene Herman
2007-08-09 15:15     ` Jarek Poplawski
2007-08-09 19:10     ` Francois Romieu
2007-08-09 19:30       ` Andi Kleen
2007-08-09 22:27         ` Francois Romieu
2007-08-10  0:15           ` Rene Herman
2007-08-10  7:40     ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-08-10 13:52       ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-10 20:12         ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-08-10 23:27           ` Rene Herman
2007-08-11  6:31             ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-11 19:12               ` Rene Herman
2007-08-11 15:53           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-11 22:55           ` Randy Dunlap
2007-08-12  3:11           ` Randy Dunlap
2007-08-12  3:27             ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-09-01 18:39       ` Oleg Verych
2007-08-09 17:56 ` Bob Copeland
2007-08-09 19:14 ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-09 19:58   ` Brennan Ashton
2007-08-09 20:03 ` Jesper Juhl
2007-08-09 20:08   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-10 20:17 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-08-10 20:40   ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-08-10 20:51     ` Willy Tarreau
2007-08-10 23:08       ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-08-11  5:33         ` Willy Tarreau
2007-08-11 14:19       ` J. Bruce Fields
2007-08-11 14:17         ` Willy Tarreau
2007-08-11 23:00           ` Randy Dunlap
2007-08-12  3:12           ` Randy Dunlap
2007-08-12 13:10             ` Stefan Richter [this message]
2007-08-12 15:43               ` Sam Ravnborg
2007-08-12 18:25                 ` Stefan Richter
2007-08-11 23:12   ` Randy Dunlap
2007-08-12  3:12   ` Randy Dunlap
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     [not found] ` <8QdUr-5j-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-08-09 12:34   ` Bodo Eggert
2007-08-09 12:41     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-08-09 13:29       ` Bodo Eggert

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