Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > On Sunday, 23 September 2007 18:19, Christian P. Schmidt wrote: >> Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: >>> On Sunday, 23 September 2007 14:38, Christian P. Schmidt wrote: >>>> Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: >>>>> On Saturday, 22 September 2007 17:41, Christian P. Schmidt wrote: >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm having a strange problem, of course not reproducible. Sometimes >>>>>> after a suspend (to ram) and resume cycle, the kernel will try to free >>>>>> all memory. This means, all running applications are flushed to swap (as >>>>>> long as it is available), caches and buffers stay at around 15MB each. >>>>>> >>>>>> The following video (traded quality for bandwidth) shows what happens on >>>>>> the way from no swap to "swapon -a" (that's the unreadable thing in the >>>>>> small shell): http://digadd.de/swapping.avi >>>>>> >>>>>> The system: >>>>>> Linux dnnote 2.6.22.5 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Aug 25 18:39:21 AST 2007 x86_64 >>>>>> Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7400 @ 2.16GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux >>>>> Are you using an ATI binary graphics driver? >>>> Yes. I do not (yet) have a choice... can't wait for the open source drivers. >>> That, most probably, is the source of the problem. Please see: >>> http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8943 >> I do however not agree with Andrew's conclusion, as the memory is not >> "used", so I wouldn't expect a memory leak. As soon as I turn swapping >> off everything is loaded again, and works. If there was a leak it should >> use the memory, shouldn't it? >> If the problem would be 100% reproducible I could try without, but as >> is, I have up to two weeks with 2-3 cycles daily (sometimes more, as I >> receive untraceable SERR from my PCI-E WLAN after which I do not receive >> interrupts any more - only a suspend/resume cycle helps...) before the >> problem occurs. >> >> Anyway, is there a way of unloading the module temporarily without >> shutting X down? > > I don't know. > > Can you try another version of the ATI driver? The reporter of this bugzilla > entry did that and it apparently helped him: > http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8943#c4 That driver is even more broken, produces artifacts all over the place. I'll rather wait for the open source work to be done and live with the situation. >>>>>> A 32bit Kernel is unable to suspend/resume at all. No idea why. dmesg >>>>>> shows nothing, logs show nothing. Any ideas for debugging are welcome. >>>>> Well, that's interesting. >>>>> >>>>> Can you try in the minimal configuration (ie. boot with init=/bin/bash, >>>>> mount /sys, mount /proc and run "echo mem > /sys/power/disk)? >>>> Which? the 32bit or the 64bit? >>> 32-bit, but please do that without the ATI driver. >> Did it. As before, suspends, but when I resume, I hear the CD-ROM spin >> up, the backlight comes on, and nothing more. The system is a Lenovo >> Thinkpad T60 8744-4XG, BIOS 1.09. > > Are you 100% sure that your 32-bit kernel configuration reflects the 64-bit > one? In particular, do you have CONFIG_NO_HZ set in the 32-bit .config? In both, not. 1000Hz timer, SMP support, hotplug CPU support are enabled. I attached a diff (from the 64bit to the 32bit). Maybe I'm missing something. > Also, would you be able to repeat this test with the latest -git kernel > (currently 2.6.23-rc7-git4)? Not that I'd really care about the 32bit support, but someone else will. Also, the 32bit version has problems with the SATA DVD-RW; it hangs for several seconds resetting the port (same kernel version, both 2.6.22.5), while the 64bit hasn't. Funny ;) Sadly, I know that 2.6.23 breaks/will break all the external modules I rely on. Anyway, I'll give it a shot later. Regards, Chris > Greetings, > Rafael