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From: Tony Camuso <tcamuso@redhat.com>
To: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [PATCH 0/5]PCI: x86 MMCONFIG]
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:15:00 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <476ACD44.7050607@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071220200413.GI29690@parisc-linux.org>

Matthew Wilcox wrote:

> Here's how BARs work ... when you write 0xffffffff to the BAR, it
> ignores all the set bits that are less than the size of the BAR.  So,
> assuming this is a 256MB BAR (like my G33 is), what ends up written to
> this BAR is 0xf0000000.  Now, because this is graphics, apparently it's
> special and embedded in the chipset, even though it looks like it's a
> PCI device.  So it actually gets priority over MMCONFIG which is also
> mapped to 0xf0000000.
> 
> For your case of a 64-bit BAR, you could write 0xffffffff to the high
> 32-bits first, then write to the low 32-bits, then reset the low, then
> high bits, and you'd avoid the problem.  But the G33 has a 32-bit BAR
> with the same problem, so it won't work for that case.
> 
> BARs that are behind bridges don't have this problem (they can't decode
> memory accesses that aren't forwarded to them).  BARs on devices which
> have memory IO disabled also don't have theis problem, but disabling
> devices has its problems (as does probing BARs for active devices anyway
> ...).
>
Thanks for the detailed explanation.

 > The question is how large can 32-bit BARs get.  As we've seen, 256MB
 > exist, and are causing pain.  I can't imagine any PCI device
 > manufacturer thinks they can allocate 2GB of the low space, but we could
 > potentially mis-size a large BAR by not using 0xffffffff.
 >

Point well taken. Graphics devices understandably consume a lot of memory
space, and are likely to consume even more in the not-too-distant future.

> I'm really not clear on the purpose of your patchset.  Was it all to
> address this one problem?
> 

No. My patch-set does not address this problem at all, but rather the
larger problem of having mmconfig-unfriendly devices on buses that are
out of reach of the unreachable_devices() routine and bitmap.

This problem is one I encountered during my testing and mentioned in
my preamble as not being fixable by my patch-set.



  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-20 20:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-20 12:28 Tony Camuso
2007-12-20 17:22 ` Greg KH
2007-12-20 17:35   ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-12-20 18:04     ` Tony Camuso
2007-12-20 18:16       ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-12-20 18:30         ` Tony Camuso
2007-12-20 18:36           ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-12-20 18:49         ` Loic Prylli
2007-12-20 19:04           ` Tony Camuso
2007-12-20 19:08             ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-12-20 19:50               ` Ivan Kokshaysky
2007-12-20 20:17                 ` Tony Camuso
2007-12-20 20:27                 ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-08  3:41                 ` Tony Camuso
2007-12-20 20:05               ` Loic Prylli
2007-12-20 20:15                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-12-20 20:56                   ` Loic Prylli
2007-12-20 21:00                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-12-20 21:55                       ` Loic Prylli
2007-12-20 19:37         ` Tony Camuso
2007-12-20 20:04           ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-12-20 20:15             ` Tony Camuso [this message]
2007-12-23 20:16         ` Loic Prylli
2007-12-23 20:55           ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-12-23 22:40             ` Loic Prylli
2007-12-24  8:09           ` Grant Grundler
2007-12-20 18:25   ` Tony Camuso
2007-12-20 21:57     ` Greg KH
2007-12-20 22:36       ` Tony Camuso
2007-12-20 22:40         ` Greg KH
2007-12-20 23:21           ` Tony Camuso
2007-12-21  2:07             ` Loic Prylli
2007-12-24  8:28           ` Grant Grundler
2008-01-08  3:20           ` [PATCH 0/5]PCI: x86 MMCONFIG Tony Camuso
2008-01-08  4:56             ` Greg KH
2008-01-08 13:14               ` Tony Camuso
2008-01-08 13:36                 ` Greg KH
2008-01-08 13:44                   ` Tony Camuso
2007-12-20 12:28 [Fwd: Re: [PATCH 0/5]PCI: x86 MMCONFIG] Tony Camuso
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2007-12-21  0:44           ` Robert Hancock
2007-12-21  1:35             ` Tony Camuso
2007-12-21  1:42               ` Tony Camuso
2007-12-21 14:59                 ` Bhavana Nagendra
2007-12-21  2:15               ` Robert Hancock
2007-12-21  2:44                 ` Tony Camuso
2007-12-21  3:40                 ` Loic Prylli
2007-12-21  4:07                   ` Tony Camuso
2007-12-21  2:09             ` Tony Camuso
2007-12-21 14:11             ` Andi Kleen
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2007-12-24 17:13           ` Robert Hancock

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