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From: Johannes Thumshirn <Johannes.Thumshirn@wdc.com>
To: Qu Wenruo <quwenruo.btrfs@gmx.com>, Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>,
	Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Naohiro Aota <Naohiro.Aota@wdc.com>, Qu Wenruo <wqu@suse.com>,
	Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>,
	"linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 03/11] btrfs: add support for inserting raid stripe extents
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2023 15:35:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <477fba84-b411-46c3-9851-ef7e30732db3@wdc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2f9f3e43-8a4b-4dbd-9e10-2637bf7079ec@gmx.com>

On 14.09.23 12:07, Qu Wenruo wrote:
>>>> +	ret = btrfs_insert_item(trans, stripe_root, &stripe_key, stripe_extent,
>>>> +				item_size);
>>>
>>> Have you tested in near-real-world on how continous the RST items could
>>> be for RAID0/RAID10?
>>>
>>> My concern here is, we may want to try our best to reduce the size of
>>> RST, due to the 64K BTRFS_STRIPE_LEN.
>>>
>>
>> There are two things I can do for it. First is trying to merge contiguus
>> RST items
> 
> This is much easier, as the RST lookup code is already taking the length
> into consideration, thus only the add path need some work.
> 
> Although I'm not sure how effective it would be in real world.
> As if the merge rate is only 5%, then it barely makes a difference.
> 

I think this will be very much workload dependent. Also just having 
logically contiguous entries doesn't help much. All the physical strides 
have to be contiguous as well.

> Maybe you don't need to implement a full merge in this version, but just
> do some trace events to see the merge rate?
> 
>> and second make BTRFS_STRIPE_LEN a mkfs time constant instead
>> of a compile time constant.
> 
> Please be very careful about this, we have quite some bitmap relying on
> this. (IIRC RAID56 and scrub)
> 
> Currently unsigned long can only support up to 64 bits, thus the maximum
> stripe length would be 256K, but I'm pretty sure there would be other
> hidden traps somewhere else.
> 

Yeah, this will be (both) a longer term research project as well. RAID56 
has priority. Then Erasure Coding.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-14 15:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-11 12:52 [PATCH v8 00/11] btrfs: introduce RAID stripe tree Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-11 12:52 ` [PATCH v8 01/11] btrfs: add raid stripe tree definitions Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-11 21:00   ` Damien Le Moal
2023-09-12  6:09     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-12 20:32   ` David Sterba
2023-09-13  6:02     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-13 14:49       ` David Sterba
2023-09-13 14:57         ` Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-13 16:06           ` David Sterba
2023-09-11 12:52 ` [PATCH v8 02/11] btrfs: read raid-stripe-tree from disk Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-14  9:27   ` Qu Wenruo
2023-09-14  9:33     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-11 12:52 ` [PATCH v8 03/11] btrfs: add support for inserting raid stripe extents Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-13 16:50   ` David Sterba
2023-09-13 16:57   ` David Sterba
2023-09-14  9:25   ` Qu Wenruo
2023-09-14  9:51     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-14 10:06       ` Qu Wenruo
2023-09-14 15:35         ` Johannes Thumshirn [this message]
2023-09-11 12:52 ` [PATCH v8 04/11] btrfs: delete stripe extent on extent deletion Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-11 12:52 ` [PATCH v8 05/11] btrfs: lookup physical address from stripe extent Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-14  9:18   ` Qu Wenruo
2023-09-14  9:45     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-14 14:16     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-11 12:52 ` [PATCH v8 06/11] btrfs: implement RST version of scrub Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-13  9:51   ` Qu Wenruo
2023-09-13 16:59   ` David Sterba
2023-09-11 12:52 ` [PATCH v8 07/11] btrfs: zoned: allow zoned RAID Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-12 20:49   ` David Sterba
2023-09-13  5:41     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-13 14:52       ` David Sterba
2023-09-13 14:59         ` Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-11 12:52 ` [PATCH v8 08/11] btrfs: add raid stripe tree pretty printer Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-12 20:42   ` David Sterba
2023-09-13  5:34     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-11 12:52 ` [PATCH v8 09/11] btrfs: announce presence of raid-stripe-tree in sysfs Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-11 12:52 ` [PATCH v8 10/11] btrfs: add trace events for RST Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-12 20:46   ` David Sterba
2023-09-11 12:52 ` [PATCH v8 11/11] btrfs: add raid-stripe-tree to features enabled with debug Johannes Thumshirn

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