From: Johannes Thumshirn <Johannes.Thumshirn@wdc.com>
To: Qu Wenruo <quwenruo.btrfs@gmx.com>, Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>,
Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Naohiro Aota <Naohiro.Aota@wdc.com>, Qu Wenruo <wqu@suse.com>,
Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>,
"linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 03/11] btrfs: add support for inserting raid stripe extents
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2023 15:35:02 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <477fba84-b411-46c3-9851-ef7e30732db3@wdc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2f9f3e43-8a4b-4dbd-9e10-2637bf7079ec@gmx.com>
On 14.09.23 12:07, Qu Wenruo wrote:
>>>> + ret = btrfs_insert_item(trans, stripe_root, &stripe_key, stripe_extent,
>>>> + item_size);
>>>
>>> Have you tested in near-real-world on how continous the RST items could
>>> be for RAID0/RAID10?
>>>
>>> My concern here is, we may want to try our best to reduce the size of
>>> RST, due to the 64K BTRFS_STRIPE_LEN.
>>>
>>
>> There are two things I can do for it. First is trying to merge contiguus
>> RST items
>
> This is much easier, as the RST lookup code is already taking the length
> into consideration, thus only the add path need some work.
>
> Although I'm not sure how effective it would be in real world.
> As if the merge rate is only 5%, then it barely makes a difference.
>
I think this will be very much workload dependent. Also just having
logically contiguous entries doesn't help much. All the physical strides
have to be contiguous as well.
> Maybe you don't need to implement a full merge in this version, but just
> do some trace events to see the merge rate?
>
>> and second make BTRFS_STRIPE_LEN a mkfs time constant instead
>> of a compile time constant.
>
> Please be very careful about this, we have quite some bitmap relying on
> this. (IIRC RAID56 and scrub)
>
> Currently unsigned long can only support up to 64 bits, thus the maximum
> stripe length would be 256K, but I'm pretty sure there would be other
> hidden traps somewhere else.
>
Yeah, this will be (both) a longer term research project as well. RAID56
has priority. Then Erasure Coding.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-09-14 15:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-09-11 12:52 [PATCH v8 00/11] btrfs: introduce RAID stripe tree Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-11 12:52 ` [PATCH v8 01/11] btrfs: add raid stripe tree definitions Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-11 21:00 ` Damien Le Moal
2023-09-12 6:09 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-12 20:32 ` David Sterba
2023-09-13 6:02 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-13 14:49 ` David Sterba
2023-09-13 14:57 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-13 16:06 ` David Sterba
2023-09-11 12:52 ` [PATCH v8 02/11] btrfs: read raid-stripe-tree from disk Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-14 9:27 ` Qu Wenruo
2023-09-14 9:33 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-11 12:52 ` [PATCH v8 03/11] btrfs: add support for inserting raid stripe extents Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-13 16:50 ` David Sterba
2023-09-13 16:57 ` David Sterba
2023-09-14 9:25 ` Qu Wenruo
2023-09-14 9:51 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-14 10:06 ` Qu Wenruo
2023-09-14 15:35 ` Johannes Thumshirn [this message]
2023-09-11 12:52 ` [PATCH v8 04/11] btrfs: delete stripe extent on extent deletion Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-11 12:52 ` [PATCH v8 05/11] btrfs: lookup physical address from stripe extent Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-14 9:18 ` Qu Wenruo
2023-09-14 9:45 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-14 14:16 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-11 12:52 ` [PATCH v8 06/11] btrfs: implement RST version of scrub Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-13 9:51 ` Qu Wenruo
2023-09-13 16:59 ` David Sterba
2023-09-11 12:52 ` [PATCH v8 07/11] btrfs: zoned: allow zoned RAID Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-12 20:49 ` David Sterba
2023-09-13 5:41 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-13 14:52 ` David Sterba
2023-09-13 14:59 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-11 12:52 ` [PATCH v8 08/11] btrfs: add raid stripe tree pretty printer Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-12 20:42 ` David Sterba
2023-09-13 5:34 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-11 12:52 ` [PATCH v8 09/11] btrfs: announce presence of raid-stripe-tree in sysfs Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-11 12:52 ` [PATCH v8 10/11] btrfs: add trace events for RST Johannes Thumshirn
2023-09-12 20:46 ` David Sterba
2023-09-11 12:52 ` [PATCH v8 11/11] btrfs: add raid-stripe-tree to features enabled with debug Johannes Thumshirn
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