From: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
To: Nam Cao <namcao@linutronix.de>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Gabriele Monaco <gmonaco@redhat.com>,
<linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
"Phil Auld" <pauld@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] sched: Add task enqueue/dequeue trace points
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2025 14:13:54 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <47c67022-427c-4c24-8dcf-a3721f8c5bdd@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250821070504.-ZhqdfHs@linutronix.de>
Hello Nam,
On 8/21/2025 12:35 PM, Nam Cao wrote:
>>> How about something like:
>>>
>>> dequeue_task():
>>> ...
>>> ret = p->sched_class->dequeue_task(rq, p, flags);
>>> if (trace_dequeue_task_p_enabled() && !(flags & DEQUEUE_SLEEP))
>>> __trace_dequeue_task_tp(rq->cpu, p);
>>> return ret;
>>>
>>>
>>> __block_task():
>>> trace_dequeue_task_tp(rq->cpu, p);
>>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> Specifically, only DEQUEUE_SLEEP is allowed to fail, and DEQUEUE_SLEEP
>>> will eventually cause __block_task() to be called, either directly, or
>>> delayed.
>>
>> If you extend the tracepoint with the sleep state, you can probably
>> remove the nr_running tracepoints. Esp. once we get this new throttle
>> stuff sorted.
>
> Sorry, I'm a bit out of depth here. Can you elaborate?
>
> By "sleep state" do you mean (flags & DEQUEUE_SLEEP)? The nr_running
> tracepoints are not hit if the task is throttled, while these new
> tracepoints are hit. How does the sleep state help with this difference?
Once we have per-task throttling being discussed in
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250715071658.267-1-ziqianlu@bytedance.com/
throttled tasks will do a
dequeue_task_fair(rq, p, DEQUEUE_SLEEP | DEQUEUE_THROTTLE);
and remove themselves from the runqueue but they won't hit block_task().
To preserve current throttle behavior, I don't think per-task throttle
should call dequeue_task() directly since it does a bunch more stuff
with core-sched dequeue, psi, uclamp, etc or maybe it is fine to do
that now with per-task throttling?
Peter, what do you think?
If we don't what to do all that stuff in the throttle path, adding to
Peter's suggestion, perhaps we can have a wrapper like:
int __dequeue_task(rq, p, flags)
int ret = p->sched_class->dequeue_task(rq, p, flags);
if (trace_dequeue_task_p_enabled() &&
!((flags & (DEQUEUE_SLEEP | DEQUEUE_THROTTLE)) == DEQUEUE_SLEEP))
__trace_dequeue_task_tp(rq->cpu, p);
return ret;
and then per-task throttle can just call __dequeue_task() instead. I'll
let Peter chime in with his thoughts.
>
> Also +Cc Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>, who seems to care about the
> nr_running tracepoints.
>
> Nam
--
Thanks and Regards,
Prateek
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-21 8:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-06 8:01 [PATCH v2 0/5] rv: LTL per-cpu monitor type and real-time scheduling monitor Nam Cao
2025-08-06 8:01 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] rv/ltl: Prepare for other monitor types Nam Cao
2025-08-06 8:01 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] rv/ltl: Support per-cpu monitors Nam Cao
2025-08-07 13:28 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-06 8:01 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] verification/rvgen/ltl: Support per-cpu monitor generation Nam Cao
2025-08-07 13:06 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-08 5:12 ` Nam Cao
2025-08-08 6:21 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-08 6:30 ` Nam Cao
2025-08-06 8:01 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] sched: Add task enqueue/dequeue trace points Nam Cao
2025-08-15 13:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-15 13:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-21 7:05 ` Nam Cao
2025-08-21 8:43 ` K Prateek Nayak [this message]
2025-08-19 7:49 ` Nam Cao
2025-08-19 8:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-06 8:01 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] rv: Add rts monitor Nam Cao
2025-08-06 20:28 ` kernel test robot
2025-08-07 13:33 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-08 5:13 ` Nam Cao
2025-08-07 14:34 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-08 5:29 ` Nam Cao
2025-08-08 7:30 ` Gabriele Monaco
2025-08-15 13:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-08-19 7:54 ` Nam Cao
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