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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>
Cc: baohua@kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org, ljs@kernel.org,
	riel@surriel.com, liam@infradead.org, vbabka@kernel.org,
	harry@kernel.org, jannh@google.com, qi.zheng@linux.dev,
	pfalcato@suse.de, ayushr@modal.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: synchronize with PTE table reclaim for all folio sizes
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2026 21:05:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47fee2b0-091f-4c20-9496-eff844ab2f6f@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9916bea5-3b53-43a0-8f65-cc33995adb23@linux.alibaba.com>

On 11/6/26 03:54, Baolin Wang wrote:
> 
> 
> On 11/6/26 10:33 AM, Lance Yang wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 06, 2026 at 09:57:47AM +0800, Baolin Wang wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
> 
> .......
> 
>>>
>>> I'm afraid the memory barrier here is subtle. __folio_remove_rmap() is
>>> complex, and in the CONFIG_NO_PAGE_MAPCOUNT branch,
>>> folio_sub_return_large_mapcount() doesn't provide full ordering, so we
>>> may still need smp_wmb().
>>
>> Yeah, agreed for large folios. In the diff above, only order-0 folios
>> use smp_rmb().
>>
>> Note that order-0 folios take the fully ordered atomic_add_negative()
>> branch and skip the CONFIG_NO_PAGE_MAPCOUNT branch entirely.
> 
> Yes.
> 
>> static __always_inline void __folio_remove_rmap(struct folio *folio,
>> 		struct page *page, int nr_pages, struct vm_area_struct *vma,
>> 		enum pgtable_level level)
>> {
>> 	...
>> 	switch (level) {
>> 	case PGTABLE_LEVEL_PTE:
>> 		if (!folio_test_large(folio)) {
>> 			nr = atomic_add_negative(-1, &folio->_mapcount);
>> 			break;
>> 		}
>>
>> 		if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_NO_PAGE_MAPCOUNT)) {
>> 			nr = folio_sub_return_large_mapcount(folio, nr_pages, vma);
>> 			...
>> 		}
>> 		...
>> 	}
>> 	...
>> }
>>
>> And large folios still take the PMD lock :D
> 
> IIUC, the memory barrier optimization targets all non-PMD-sized folios 
> (including large folios). That is, for PMD-sized large folios we still 
> use the original PMD lock, while for other non-PMD-sized folios we can 
> use memory barriers to sync.

It would be nice to prototype a patch and document the required memory barriers
and how it is expected to work.

-- 
Cheers,

David

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-07 20:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-05  2:56 Baolin Wang
2026-11-05  3:22 ` Qi Zheng
2026-11-05  4:54 ` Lance Yang
2026-11-05  5:48   ` Lance Yang
2026-11-05  9:00     ` Baolin Wang
2026-11-05 10:06       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-11-05 11:18         ` Baolin Wang
2026-11-05 13:22         ` Lance Yang
2026-11-05 19:35           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-11-06  1:57           ` Baolin Wang
2026-11-06  2:33             ` Lance Yang
2026-11-06  2:54               ` Baolin Wang
2026-11-07 20:05                 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-11-06  6:24       ` Barry Song
2026-11-06  8:54         ` Baolin Wang
2026-11-06  9:15           ` Lance Yang
2026-11-06  9:29             ` Lance Yang
2026-11-06  9:50               ` Baolin Wang
2026-11-06  9:56           ` Barry Song
2026-11-06 13:56             ` Baolin Wang
2026-11-05 11:37 ` Pedro Falcato
2026-11-06  2:12   ` Baolin Wang
2026-11-07 19:58     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)

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