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From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
To: Harry Yoo <harry.yoo@oracle.com>, Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, andreyknvl@gmail.com, cl@linux.com,
	dvyukov@google.com, glider@google.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, mhocko@kernel.org, muchun.song@linux.dev,
	rientjes@google.com, roman.gushchin@linux.dev,
	ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
	vincenzo.frascino@arm.com, yeoreum.yun@arm.com, tytso@mit.edu,
	adilger.kernel@dilger.ca, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH V3 6/7] mm/slab: save memory by allocating slabobj_ext array from leftover
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2025 17:33:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48029aab-20ea-4d90-bfd1-255592b2018e@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aQK0Bj8DL21WJ0gq@hyeyoo>

On 10/30/25 01:40, Harry Yoo wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 29, 2025 at 11:37:27AM -0700, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
>> > > >         mod_node_page_state(slab_pgdat(slab), cache_vmstat_idx(s),
>> > > > @@ -3219,9 +3352,6 @@ static struct slab *allocate_slab(struct kmem_cache *s, gfp_t flags, int node)
>> > > >         slab->objects = oo_objects(oo);slab_obj_exts
>> > > >         slab->inuse = 0;
>> > > >         slab->frozen = 0;
>> > > > -       init_slab_obj_exts(slab);
>> > > > -
>> > > > -       account_slab(slab, oo_order(oo), s, flags);
>> > > >
>> > > >         slab->slab_cache = s;
>> > > >
>> > > > @@ -3230,6 +3360,13 @@ static struct slab *allocate_slab(struct kmem_cache *s, gfp_t flags, int node)
>> > > >         start = slab_address(slab);
>> > > >
>> > > >         setup_slab_debug(s, slab, start);
>> > > > +       init_slab_obj_exts(slab);
>> > > > +       /*
>> > > > +        * Poison the slab before initializing the slabobj_ext array
>> > > > +        * to prevent the array from being overwritten.
>> > > > +        */
>> > > > +       alloc_slab_obj_exts_early(s, slab);
>> > > > +       account_slab(slab, oo_order(oo), s, flags);
>> > >
>> > >  alloc_slab_obj_exts() is called in 2 other places:
>> > > 1. __memcg_slab_post_alloc_hook()
>> > > 2. prepare_slab_obj_exts_hook()
>> > >
>> > > Don't you need alloc_slab_obj_exts_early() there as well?
>> >
>> > That's good point, and I thought it's difficult to address
>> > concurrency problem without using a per-slab lock.
>> >
>> > Thread A                    Thread B
>> > - sees slab->obj_exts == 0
>> >                             - sees slab->obj_exts == 0
>> >                             - allocates the vector from unused space
>> >                               and initializes it.
>> >                             - try cmpxchg()
>> > - allocates the vector
>> >   from unused space and
>> >   initializes it.
>> >   (the vector is already
>> >    in use and it's overwritten!)
>> >
>> > - try cmpxchg()
>> >
>> > But since this is slowpath, using slab_{lock,unlock}() here is probably
>> > fine. What do you think?
>> 
>> Ok, was your original intent to leave these callers as is and allocate
>> the vector like we do today even if obj_exts fit inside the slab?
> 
> Yes that's what I intended, and maybe later we could allocate the vector
> from the unused space even after the slab is allocated, as long as
> it doesn't hurt performance.

It would be nice. I guess what can happen is there's a cache without
SLAB_ACCOUNT but then some allocations from that will use __GFP_ACCOUNT and
we need to allocate obj_exts on-demand, right?

>> >
>> > --
>> > Cheers,
>> > Harry / Hyeonggon
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-30 16:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-27 12:28 [RFC PATCH V3 0/7] mm/slab: reduce slab accounting memory overhead by allocating slabobj_ext metadata within unused slab space Harry Yoo
2025-10-27 12:28 ` [RFC PATCH V3 1/7] mm/slab: allow specifying freepointer offset when using constructor Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 17:43   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-10-29  7:10     ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-30 14:35       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-10-27 12:28 ` [RFC PATCH V3 2/7] ext4: specify the free pointer offset for ext4_inode_cache Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 17:22   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-10-28 17:25     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-10-27 12:28 ` [RFC PATCH V3 3/7] mm/slab: abstract slabobj_ext access via new slab_obj_ext() helper Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 17:55   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-10-29  8:49     ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-29 15:24       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-10-30  1:26         ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-30  5:03           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-10-27 12:28 ` [RFC PATCH V3 4/7] mm/slab: use stride to access slabobj_ext Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 20:10   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-10-27 12:28 ` [RFC PATCH V3 5/7] mm/memcontrol,alloc_tag: handle slabobj_ext access under KASAN poison Harry Yoo
2025-10-28 23:03   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-10-29  8:06     ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-29 15:28       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-10-27 12:28 ` [RFC PATCH V3 6/7] mm/slab: save memory by allocating slabobj_ext array from leftover Harry Yoo
2025-10-29  3:07   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-10-29  7:59     ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-29 18:37       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-10-30  0:40         ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-30 16:33           ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2025-10-29 18:45   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2025-10-30  1:11     ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-27 12:28 ` [RFC PATCH V3 7/7] mm/slab: place slabobj_ext metadata in unused space within s->size Harry Yoo
2025-10-29  3:19   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2025-12-22 11:14     ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-29 18:19   ` Andrey Ryabinin
2025-10-30  0:51     ` Harry Yoo
2025-10-30 12:41       ` Yeoreum Yun
2025-10-30 16:39 ` [RFC PATCH V3 0/7] mm/slab: reduce slab accounting memory overhead by allocating slabobj_ext metadata within unused slab space Vlastimil Babka

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