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From: Aaron Carroll <aaronc@cse.unsw.edu.au>
To: Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Cc: Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@unimore.it>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RESEND][RFC] BFQ I/O Scheduler
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:19:13 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48072421.60307@cse.unsw.edu.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080417092751.GX12774@kernel.dk>

Jens Axboe wrote:
>> Maybe there is also another middle-ground solution. I'll try to sketch 
>> it out:
>> . use sectors instead of time
>> . impose a penalty to each thread in proportion to the distance between 
>> its disk requests
>> . reduce the maximum budget of each thread as a function of this seek 
>> penalty so as to prevent the thread from stealing more than a given time 
>> slice (the simple mechanism to limit per-thread budget is already 
>> implemented in bfq).
>>
>> By doing so, both fairness and time isolation should be guaranteed.
>> Finally, this policy should be safe in that, given the maximum time used 
>> by a seeky thread to consume its maximum budget on a reference disk, the 
>> time used on any faster disk should be shorter.
>>
>> Does it seem reasonable?
> 
> Not for CFQ, that will stay time based. The problem with #2 above is
> that it then quickly turns to various heuristics, which is just
> impossible to tune for general behaviour. Or it just falls apart for
> other real life situations.

Like SSD or hardware RAID.  Time-slices have the nice property of fairness
irrespective of the underlying hardware characteristics.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-17 10:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-01 15:29 Fabio Checconi
2008-04-15  8:22 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-15  9:11   ` Fabio Checconi
2008-04-15 12:42     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-15 18:08       ` Fabio Checconi
2008-04-16  6:48   ` Paolo Valente
2008-04-18  1:26   ` Aaron Carroll
2008-04-16 18:44 ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-17  6:14   ` Paolo Valente
2008-04-17  7:10     ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-17  8:26       ` Paolo Valente
2008-04-17  8:30         ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-17  9:24           ` Paolo Valente
2008-04-17  9:27             ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-17 10:19               ` Aaron Carroll [this message]
2008-04-17 10:21                 ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-17 11:30               ` Fabio Checconi
2008-04-17 15:19           ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-17 15:47             ` Paolo Valente
2008-04-17 15:51               ` Avi Kivity
2008-04-17 18:12                 ` Paolo Valente
2008-04-17 23:44             ` Aaron Carroll
2008-04-17 10:24         ` Aaron Carroll
2008-04-17 11:14           ` Fabio Checconi
2008-04-17 12:14             ` Aaron Carroll
2008-04-17 13:54               ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-17 15:18               ` Paolo Valente
2008-04-17  8:48       ` Pavel Machek
2008-04-17  8:57         ` Jens Axboe
2008-04-17  9:14   ` Fabio Checconi

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