From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758164AbYEDT2T (ORCPT ); Sun, 4 May 2008 15:28:19 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755261AbYEDT2J (ORCPT ); Sun, 4 May 2008 15:28:09 -0400 Received: from smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl ([213.51.130.201]:47070 "EHLO smtpq2.groni1.gr.home.nl" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755307AbYEDT2I (ORCPT ); Sun, 4 May 2008 15:28:08 -0400 Message-ID: <481E0E76.3060900@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 04 May 2008 21:28:54 +0200 From: Rene Herman User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sam Ravnborg CC: Roman Zippel , linux-kbuild , LKML Subject: Re: kconfig - a suggestion how to fix the select issue References: <20080504071041.GA15315@uranus.ravnborg.org> In-Reply-To: <20080504071041.GA15315@uranus.ravnborg.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 04-05-08 09:10, Sam Ravnborg wrote: > Today we have two ways to express/solve dependencies. > > Top-down we have "depends on" > and bottom up we have "select". > > The "depends on" dependencies at the same > time impact the visibility of a symbol. > A symbol with "depends on" not satisfied are not > visible and thus not shown in menuconfig. I've always really disliked the visibility thing. I believe it's not really the core issue here but regardless of anything else, could we not "grey out" non-selectable options with its helpt text still available? That's much more the standard UI paradigm. Rene.