From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1763311AbYESX4O (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 May 2008 19:56:14 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1758059AbYESXz7 (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 May 2008 19:55:59 -0400 Received: from terminus.zytor.com ([198.137.202.10]:43349 "EHLO terminus.zytor.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755026AbYESXz6 (ORCPT ); Mon, 19 May 2008 19:55:58 -0400 Message-ID: <48321299.80303@zytor.com> Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 16:51:53 -0700 From: "H. Peter Anvin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080501) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adrian Bunk CC: Harvey Harrison , Adrian Bunk , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] asm-generic/int-ll64.h: always provide __{s,u}64 References: <20080519215452.GK17716@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> <4831F89F.5060106@zytor.com> <1211236048.5915.94.camel@brick> <20080519223232.GB17716@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> In-Reply-To: <20080519223232.GB17716@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Adrian Bunk wrote: >>> >> If it is going to be unconditionally offered, we could get rid of >> __BYTEORDER_HAS_U64__ as a next step. Unless there is something I've >> missed. > > Why do we need the byteorder headers in userspace at all? > Because Linux-specific software has depended on them for over 15 years (they are a much better API than anything POSIX provides.) We can't just yank them, and so it's better if they actually work. Yes, you can argue it should be glibc's job to provide them, but well, why duplicate work when we already have a nicely working set. -hpa