From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756037AbYEVQJ6 (ORCPT ); Thu, 22 May 2008 12:09:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756082AbYEVQJh (ORCPT ); Thu, 22 May 2008 12:09:37 -0400 Received: from hp3.statik.tu-cottbus.de ([141.43.120.68]:39643 "EHLO hp3.statik.tu-cottbus.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1755634AbYEVQJf (ORCPT ); Thu, 22 May 2008 12:09:35 -0400 Message-ID: <48359A61.6050301@s5r6.in-berlin.de> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 18:08:01 +0200 From: Stefan Richter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.13) Gecko/20080313 SeaMonkey/1.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adrian Bunk CC: Andrew Morton , Cyrill Gorcunov , tytso@mit.edu, hch@infradead.org, viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net Subject: Re: CFD: linux-wanking@vger.kernel.org (was [PATCH] Standard indentation of arguments) References: <12113495282137-git-send-email-kongjianjun@gmail.com> <20080521083413.GM28946@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20080521015037.add0b78e.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20080521103206.GA24545@infradead.org> <20080521120939.GF8581@mit.edu> <20080521104644.5b6f4e63.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20080521185725.GD6932@cvg> <20080521123127.3b3b66af.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20080521230155.GC16376@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> In-Reply-To: <20080521230155.GC16376@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:31:27PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: >>... >> For more substantial starter projects the best we have (as far as I >> know) is http://kernelnewbies.org/KernelProjects, but that's just a >> teeny subset. >> >> We're not very good at this, I'm afraid. I seem to recall that Rik has >> offered to help out here, so perhaps whenever one notices a >> hey-someone-should-do-this project, it could be forwarded to Rik and he >> can put it up there. >>... > > Let's look at it from another angle: > > We should not aim at being good at this. > > What do we need more in the kernel: > - people testing development kernels > - people fixing bugs > - people maintaining code > - people reviewing code - encouragement to develop in the mainline rather than out-of-tree > What do we already have more than enough: > - people developing new bugs^Wfeatures - companies being content with out-of-tree drivers or even closed source drivers or no drivers at all, and users having to put up with it -- Stefan Richter -=====-==--- -=-= =-==- http://arcgraph.de/sr/