From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757762AbYE3AZ1 (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 May 2008 20:25:27 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753377AbYE3AZP (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 May 2008 20:25:15 -0400 Received: from einhorn.in-berlin.de ([192.109.42.8]:56063 "EHLO einhorn.in-berlin.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751740AbYE3AZN (ORCPT ); Thu, 29 May 2008 20:25:13 -0400 X-Envelope-From: stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de Message-ID: <483F4947.40201@s5r6.in-berlin.de> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 02:24:39 +0200 From: Stefan Richter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.13) Gecko/20080419 SeaMonkey/1.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Wilcox CC: Jiri Kosina , James Bottomley , ksummit-2008-discuss@lists.linux-foundation.org, penberg@cs.helsinki.fi, dwmw2@infradead.org, David Miller , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2008-discuss] Fixing the Kernel Janitors project References: <1212010931.3445.103.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1212013125.2236.58.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> <1212014127.3445.115.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20080528.230934.131215087.davem@davemloft.net> <1212071813.3428.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20080529163247.GW22636@parisc-linux.org> In-Reply-To: <20080529163247.GW22636@parisc-linux.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Matthew Wilcox wrote: > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 05:06:15PM +0200, Jiri Kosina wrote: >> All I want to say is that I could very well imagine that a lot of >> newcomers will find "hey, feel free to crawl through bugzilla and fix >> whatever you are able to fix" very non-attractive. > > Of course. We have to make it sexier than that. A newcomer is motivated to fix a non-trivial bug if his own setup is seriously affected, no convenient workaround is possible, and it is clear that nobody else is gong to fix the bug (e.g. because the code is orphaned). If you have funds, you may have ways to provide better motivators than this. -- Stefan Richter -=====-==--- -=-= ====- http://arcgraph.de/sr/