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From: Santhosh Kumar K <s-k6@ti.com>
To: Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>
Cc: <broonie@kernel.org>, <robh@kernel.org>, <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	<conor+dt@kernel.org>, <richard@nod.at>, <vigneshr@ti.com>,
	<tudor.ambarus@linaro.org>, <pratyush@kernel.org>,
	<mwalle@kernel.org>, <linux-spi@vger.kernel.org>,
	<devicetree@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>, <praneeth@ti.com>,
	<u-kumar1@ti.com>, <p-mantena@ti.com>, <a-dutta@ti.com>,
	<s-k6@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 00/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: add PHY tuning support
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2026 23:38:34 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <485b5e4c-8260-4f40-80b1-c0e85bdeb4e9@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y0kxvwyf.fsf@bootlin.com>



On 13/02/26 14:31, Miquel Raynal wrote:
> On 07/02/2026 at 00:58:03 +0530, Santhosh Kumar K <s-k6@ti.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 05/02/26 21:18, Miquel Raynal wrote:
>>> Hi Santhosh,
>>>
>>>> I am surprised by these numbers, I would expect these to get higher for
>>>> SPI NANDs. I will test the series and report my observations, especially
>>>> since there is also ODDR SPI NAND support now (in nand/next, should be
>>>> part of my upcoming merge request to Linus for 6.19+1);
>>> I just tested the series, here are some numbers I grabbed on TI AM62A7
>>> LP SK with a Winbond W35N02 SPI NAND chip (so in the end very close to
>>> your report):
>>>    +-----------------+-----------+------------+
>>>    | SPI NAND        | no tuning | PHY tuning |
>>>    | Unit: MiB/s     |   25MHz   |   166MHz   |
>>>    |-----------------+-----------+------------|
>>>    | Octal SDR read  |   13.8    |    34.2    |
>>>    |           write |    7.2    |    10.2    |
>>>    |-----------------+-----------+------------|
>>>    | Octal DTR read  |   21.2    |     N/A    |
>>>    |           write |    9.0    |     N/A    |
>>>    +-----------------+-----------+------------+
>>> Please mind I used MiB/s and not MB/s (so kiB / 1024), I don't know
>>> which one you used for measuring, as you marked MB, whereas the most
>>> common unit seems to be MiB.
>>> However PHY tuning failed in Octal DTR mode (your series applied on
>>> top
>>> of nand/next) with the following logs, can you have a look?
>>> [    2.261647] spi-nand spi0.0: Winbond SPI NAND was found.
>>> [    2.266956] spi-nand spi0.0: 128 MiB, block size: 256 KiB, page size: 4096, OOB size: 128
>>> [    2.285257] cadence-qspi fc40000.spi: PHY tuning failed: -2
>>> [    2.290835] spi-nand spi0.0: Failed to execute PHY tuning: -2
>>
>> Unfortunately, due to a known erratum in the Cadence controller, PHY DDR
>> mode cannot be used with 2-byte addressing.
>>
>> Refer:
>> Errata i2383: OSPI: 2-byte address is not supported in PHY DDR mode [1]
>>
>> As a result, the Cadence controller supports only the following
>> operating modes:
>>   - PHY DDR mode with 4-byte addressing
>>   - PHY SDR mode
>>   - TAP (non-PHY) DDR mode
>>   - TAP (non-PHY) SDR mode
> 
> I do not think we have 4-byte addressing capabilities on SPI NAND chips,
> esp. Winbond's chips. So there is a down side: the core will pick-up
> Octal DTR modes rather than Octal SDR (with PHY) mode, which is not the
> fastest mode. Maybe we can guess that once we have access to the max
> (tuned PHY) spi frequency, with an extra flag in the driver indicating
> that the PHY speed is not accessible in DTR mode. But this again
> requires different handling between SPI NAND and SPI NOR, as SPI NOR
> IIRC may have 4-byte addressing capabilities.

I'm currently handling this in the Cadence controller's supports_op()
callback, and it seems to be working as expected.

If a DDR operation is passed with addr.nbytes <= 2 and PHY tuning
support is available, return false. I'll include this change in v3.

Regards,
Santhosh.

> 
> Thanks,
> Miquèl


      reply	other threads:[~2026-02-18 18:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-13 14:16 Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/12] spi: dt-bindings: add spi-has-dqs property Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-04 10:46   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-05 17:46     ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 18:06       ` Miquel Raynal
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/12] spi: spi-mem: add controller tuning support Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/12] mtd: spinand: perform controller tuning during probe Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 17:35   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-06 19:23     ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/12] mtd: spi-nor: extract read operation setup into helper Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/12] mtd: spi-nor: perform controller tuning during probe Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: move cqspi_readdata_capture earlier Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 17:35   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: add DQS support to read data capture Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 17:35   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: read 'has-dqs' DT property Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 17:35   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-19 12:14     ` Michael Walle
2026-02-20  8:21       ` Miquel Raynal
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: add PHY tuning infrastructure Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 17:39   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-06 19:25     ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-13  8:18       ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-18 18:07         ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-19 10:30           ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-09  9:48   ` Michael Walle
2026-02-12 10:50     ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-12 11:14       ` Michael Walle
2026-02-12 12:55         ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-18 18:07           ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-19  8:33             ` Michael Walle
2026-02-19 10:34             ` Miquel Raynal
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: implement PHY tuning algorithm Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 17:42   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: restrict PHY frequency to tuned operations Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 17:47   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-06 19:27     ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-13  8:21       ` Miquel Raynal
2026-03-17 15:17         ` Miquel Raynal
2026-03-30 19:56           ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: enable PHY for direct reads and writes Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 17:51   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-04 10:29 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: add PHY tuning support Miquel Raynal
2026-02-05 15:48   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-06 19:28     ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-13  9:01       ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-18 18:08         ` Santhosh Kumar K [this message]

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