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From: "Alex G." <mr.nuke.me@gmail.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-edac@vger.kernel.org,
	rjw@rjwysocki.net, lenb@kernel.org, tony.luck@intel.com,
	tbaicar@codeaurora.org, will.deacon@arm.com, james.morse@arm.com,
	shiju.jose@huawei.com, zjzhang@codeaurora.org,
	gengdongjiu@huawei.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	alex_gagniuc@dellteam.com, austin_bolen@dell.com,
	shyam_iyer@dell.com, devel@acpica.org, mchehab@kernel.org,
	robert.moore@intel.com, erik.schmauss@intel.com,
	Yazen Ghannam <yazen.ghannam@amd.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 3/4] acpi: apei: Do not panic() when correctable errors are marked as fatal.
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 10:00:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48944beb-4e29-05cc-857b-7698e3dbe89b@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180425140108.GA2597@pd.tnic>



On 04/25/2018 09:01 AM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 11:19:25PM -0500, Alex G. wrote:
>> That tells you what FFS said about the error.
> 
> I betcha those status and command values have a human-readable counterparts.
> 
> Btw, what do you abbreviate with "FFS"?

Firmware-first.

>> It's immediately obvious if there's a glaring FFS bug and if we get bogus
>> data. If you distrust firmware as much as I do, then you will find great
>> value in having such info in the logs. It's probably not too useful to a
>> casual user, but then neither is a majority of the system log.
> 
> No no, you're missing the point - I *want* all data in the error log
> which helps debug a hardware issue. I just want it humanly readable so
> that I don't have to jot down the values and go scour the manuals to map
> what it actually means.

We could probably use more of the native AER print functions, but that's
beyond the scope of this patch. I tried something like this [1], but
have given up following the PCI maintainer's radio silence. I don't care
_that_ much about the log format.

[1] http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-pci/msg71422.html

>> You're missing the timing and assuming you will get the hotplug interrupt.
>> In this example, you have 22ms between the link down and presence detect
>> state change. This is a fairly fast removal.
>>
>> Hotplug dependencies aside (you can have the kernel run without PCIe hotplug
>> support), I don't think you want to just linger in NMI for dozens of
>> milliseconds waiting for presence detect confirmation.
> 
> No, I don't mean that. I mean something like deferred processing:

Like the exact thing that this patch series implements? :)

> you
> get an error, you notice it is a device which supports physical removal
> so you exit the NMI handler and process the error in normal, process
> context which allows you to query the device and say, "Hey device, are
> you still there?"

Like the exact way the AER handler works?

> If it is not, you drop all the hw I/O errors reported for it.

Like the PCI error recovery mechanisms that AER invokes?

> Hmmm?
Hmmm

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-25 15:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-16 21:58 [RFC PATCH v2 0/4] acpi: apei: Improve error handling with firmware-first Alexandru Gagniuc
2018-04-16 21:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/4] EDAC, GHES: Remove unused argument to ghes_edac_report_mem_error Alexandru Gagniuc
2018-04-17  9:36   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-04-17 16:43     ` Alex G.
2018-04-16 21:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/4] acpi: apei: Split GHES handlers outside of ghes_do_proc Alexandru Gagniuc
2018-04-18 17:52   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-04-19 14:19     ` Alex G.
2018-04-19 14:30       ` Borislav Petkov
2018-04-19 14:57         ` Alex G.
2018-04-19 15:29           ` Borislav Petkov
2018-04-19 15:46             ` Alex G.
2018-04-19 16:40               ` Borislav Petkov
2018-04-16 21:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/4] acpi: apei: Do not panic() when correctable errors are marked as fatal Alexandru Gagniuc
2018-04-18 17:54   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-04-19 14:57     ` Alex G.
2018-04-19 15:35       ` James Morse
2018-04-19 16:27         ` Alex G.
2018-04-19 15:40       ` Borislav Petkov
2018-04-19 16:26         ` Alex G.
2018-04-19 16:45           ` Borislav Petkov
2018-04-19 17:40             ` Alex G.
2018-04-19 19:03               ` Borislav Petkov
2018-04-19 22:55                 ` Alex G.
2018-04-22 10:48                   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-04-24  4:19                     ` Alex G.
2018-04-25 14:01                       ` Borislav Petkov
2018-04-25 15:00                         ` Alex G. [this message]
2018-04-25 17:15                           ` Borislav Petkov
2018-04-25 17:27                             ` Alex G.
2018-04-25 17:39                               ` Borislav Petkov
2018-04-16 21:59 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/4] acpi: apei: Warn when GHES marks correctable errors as "fatal" Alexandru Gagniuc
2018-04-18 17:54   ` Borislav Petkov
2018-04-19 15:11     ` Alex G.
2018-04-19 15:46       ` Borislav Petkov
2018-04-25 20:39 ` [RFC PATCH v3 0/3] acpi: apei: Improve PCIe error handling with firmware-first Alexandru Gagniuc
2018-04-25 20:39   ` [RFC PATCH v3 1/3] EDAC, GHES: Remove unused argument to ghes_edac_report_mem_error Alexandru Gagniuc
2018-04-25 20:39   ` [RFC PATCH v3 2/3] acpi: apei: Do not panic() on PCIe errors reported through GHES Alexandru Gagniuc
2018-04-26 11:19     ` Borislav Petkov
2018-04-26 17:44       ` Alex G.
2018-04-25 20:39   ` [RFC PATCH v3 3/3] acpi: apei: Warn when GHES marks correctable errors as "fatal" Alexandru Gagniuc
2018-04-26 11:20     ` Borislav Petkov
2018-04-26 17:47       ` Alex G.
2018-04-26 18:03         ` Borislav Petkov
2018-05-02 19:10       ` Pavel Machek
2018-05-02 19:29         ` Alex G.

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