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From: Alex Dubov <oakad@yahoo.com>
To: Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Smartmedia/xd card support - request for comments
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:33:11 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <490135.81340.qm@web36705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080420160115.GA20694@logfs.org>

> >
> > I wonder if mtd shouldn't modified to handler more clever controller :
> > I saw some raw nand controller where you can program a batch of 
> > command/read/write/ecc checking (that work on a internal RAM of the 
> > controller (and may be use DMA)) and all you have to do is to wait the 
> > controller do the job.
> > These controllers are very hard to integrate in current nand layer 
> > because it is very low level controller oriented.
> 
> The obvious solution is to have seperate io scheduling from io
> completion.  Requires an asynchronous interface to read/write and some
> sort of request queue.
> 
> Not quite as obvious is the question of whether to add all this to mtd
> or to replace mtd with block devices, which already have it.
> 

I was thinking about it myself and it appears to be the only solution outright.

The interesting, but apparently hard way to do so is to define a couple of
REQ_TYPE_SPECIAL mtd-specific commands and use the existing block device queue
to manipulate them. This can even open the possibility of "static" request
translation: mtd_blkdev can pop the block device request, put it through media
specific translator and then push a necessary set of mtd operations back into
the same queue, delegating the processing to raw mtd device.

The simpler approach I'm following with my xd_card_blk is to define a
simplistic, block device like api. First, the translator is initialized with
the request range (offset + length) and backend is notified to start
processing. The backend then pulls flash requests (READ, WRITE, COPY, ERASE)
from the translator, possibly putting them through additional, protocol/host
specific translation layer.



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  reply	other threads:[~2008-04-21  1:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-19  8:31 matthieu castet
2008-04-20 16:01 ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-21  1:33   ` Alex Dubov [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-04-17  8:50 Alex Dubov
2008-04-17  9:01 ` Ben Dooks
2008-04-17  9:11   ` Alex Dubov
2008-04-17 13:10     ` Andy Lutomirski
2008-04-17 13:36       ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-04-17 13:38     ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-04-17 14:07       ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-17 19:11         ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-04-17 21:21           ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-18  8:47             ` Alex Dubov
2008-04-18  9:35               ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-04-19  2:49                 ` Alex Dubov
2008-04-19  5:56                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-04-18 14:00               ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-19  3:05                 ` Alex Dubov
2008-04-19  6:37                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-04-19 16:35                     ` Jörn Engel
2008-04-20  2:25                     ` Alex Dubov
2008-04-17 13:35 ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-04-17 14:19 ` Jörn Engel

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