From: "Daniel Hokka Zakrisson" <daniel@hozac.com>
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: "Andi Kleen" <andi@firstfloor.org>,
"David C. Hansen" <haveblue@us.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Cedric Le Goater" <clg@fr.ibm.com>,
"Containers" <containers@lists.osdl.org>,
"Pavel Emelyanov" <xemul@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] change clone_flags type to u64
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:13:00 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49365.192.168.101.12.1207865580.squirrel@intranet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080410171453.GA7023@sergelap.ibm.com>
Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Andi Kleen (andi@firstfloor.org):
>> > I guess that was a development rationale.
>>
>> But what rationale? It just doesn't make much sense to me.
>>
>> > Most of the namespaces are in
>> > use in the container projects like openvz, vserver and probably others
>> > and we needed a way to activate the code.
>>
>> You could just have added it to feature groups over time.
>>
>> >
>> > Not perfect I agree.
>> >
>> > > With your current strategy are you sure that even 64bit will
>> > > be enough in the end? For me it rather looks like you'll
>> > > go through those quickly too as more and more of the kernel
>> > > is namespaced.
>> >
>> > well, we're reaching the end. I hope ! devpts is in progress and
>> > mq is just waiting for a clone flag.
>>
>> Are you sure?
>
> Well for one thing we can take a somewhat different approach to new
> clone flags. I.e. we could extend CLONE_NEWIPC to do mq instead of
> introducing a new clone flag. The name doesn't have 'sysv' in it,
> and globbing all ipc resources together makes some amount of sense.
> Similarly has hpa+eric pointed out earlier, suka could use
> CLONE_NEWDEV for ptys. If we have net, pid, ipc, devices, that's a
> pretty reasonable split imo. Perhaps we tie user to devices and get
> rid of CLONE_NEWUSER which I suspect noone is using atm (since only
> Dave has run into the CONFIG_USER_SCHED problem). Or not. We could
> roll uts into net, and give CLONE_NEWUTS a deprecation period.
Please don't. Then we'd need to re-add it in Linux-VServer to support
guests where network namespaces aren't used...
> -serge
--
Daniel Hokka Zakrisson
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-04-10 22:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-04-09 22:26 [PATCH 0/3] clone64() and unshare64() system calls sukadev
2008-04-09 22:32 ` [PATCH 1/3] change clone_flags type to u64 sukadev
2008-04-10 8:25 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-10 12:25 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-04-10 12:52 ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-10 13:11 ` Kirill Korotaev
2008-04-10 13:23 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-04-10 13:18 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-04-10 17:14 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-04-10 22:13 ` Daniel Hokka Zakrisson [this message]
2008-04-10 22:49 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2008-04-11 8:45 ` Daniel Hokka Zakrisson
2008-04-09 22:34 ` [PATCH 2/3] add do_unshare() sukadev
2008-04-09 22:34 ` [PATCH 3/3] add the clone64() and unshare64() syscalls sukadev
2008-04-09 23:07 ` Jakub Jelinek
2008-04-10 2:15 ` sukadev
2008-04-10 3:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-10 0:00 ` [PATCH 0/3] clone64() and unshare64() system calls H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-10 1:07 ` sukadev
2008-04-10 1:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-10 2:38 ` sukadev
2008-04-10 2:43 ` Paul Menage
2008-04-10 18:26 ` sukadev
2008-04-10 18:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-10 12:33 ` Cedric Le Goater
2008-04-10 16:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-04-10 6:48 ` Cedric Le Goater
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-02-11 9:58 [patch 0/3] clone64() and unshare64() syscalls clg
2008-02-11 9:58 ` [patch 1/3] change clone_flags type to u64 clg
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