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From: "Janos Farkas" <chexum+dev@gmail.com>
To: "David Daney" <ddaney@avtrex.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	pgf@foxharp.boston.ma.us, freek@macfreek.nl
Subject: Re: Broadcast ARP packets on link local addresses (Version2).
Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2006 18:53:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <493eee610604060953jcfdd2b6wdf773f4fb828aafa@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44353F36.9070404@avtrex.com>

On 4/6/06, David Daney <ddaney@avtrex.com> wrote:
> Janos Farkas wrote:
> > Shouldn't it
> > be more correct to not depend on the ip address of the used network,
> > but to use the "scope" parameter of the given address?

> RFC 3927 specifies the Ethernet arp broadcast behavior for only
> 169.254.0.0/16.  Presumably you could set the scope parameter to local
> for addresses outside of that range or even for protocols other than
> Ethernet.  Since broadcasting ARP packets usually adversely effects
> usable network bandwidth, we should probably only do it where it is
> absolutely required.  The overhead of testing the value required by the
> RFC is quite low (3 machine instructions on i686 is the size of the
> entire patch), so using some proxy like the scope parameter would not
> even be a performance win.

Indeed, I just have a bad feeling about hardwiring IP addresses this deep.

The problems with "my" idea would be, summarily, after a day:

Q: Is there are reason to use broadcast ARP semantics for other IP
address ranges?
A: Maybe, but no RFC defines that.
Q: Is there are reason to NOT use broadcast ARP semantics for the
defined IP address ranges?
A: Maybe, but the RFC is against it.
Q: Is there a reason to expect people (and tools) to use/define scopes?
A: Probably, but it's still uncommon practice :)  I mean, how many of
us have 192.168.x.x addresses with "global" scope? I know I do.

I'm still in a losing position :)

Janos

  reply	other threads:[~2006-04-06 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-04-05 21:22 [PATCH] net: " David Daney
2006-04-06 10:24 ` Janos Farkas
2006-04-06 16:17   ` David Daney
2006-04-06 16:53     ` Janos Farkas [this message]
2006-04-07 13:30     ` jamal
2006-04-07 16:18       ` David Daney
2006-04-07 20:38         ` Mark Butler
2006-04-22 17:14 ` [PATCH] net: " Anand Kumria

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