From: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] create workqueue threads only when needed
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 09:42:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4986B205.2040807@s5r6.in-berlin.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1233554443.18767.71.camel@pasglop>
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 03:24 +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 08:37:41AM +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
>> >
>> > > I don't know, most of those I've looked on are not documented about the reason
>> > > for a private workqueue. I guess most of them can use the usual kevent.
I rather suspect that the majority of private workqueues are there for
good reasons.
>> > The main problem with kevent is that it gets clogged up.
>>
>> I don't think so. Here is a snapshot of the workqueue tracer in my
>> box currently:
>
> That's not quite what I meant ...
>
> The main problem with keventd I'd say is that it's used in all sort of
> exeptional code path (ie, driver reset path, error handling, etc...) for
> things that will msleep happily for tenth milliseconds, that sort of
> thing.
>
> IE. It will be pretty responsive -in general- but can suffer form
> horrible latencies every now and then.
Actually it /should/ be the other way around:
The shared workqueue should only be used for work that sleeps only
briefly (perhaps with the exception of very unlikely longer sleeps e.g.
for allocations that cause paging).
Work which /may/ sleep longer, for example performs SCSI transactions,
needs to go into a private workqueue or other kind of context.
OTOH you are right too; work which must not be deferred too long by work
from another uncooperative/ unfair subsystem is probably also better off
in an own workqueue...
--
Stefan Richter
-=====-==--= --=- ---=-
http://arcgraph.de/sr/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-02 8:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-27 0:17 Frederic Weisbecker
2009-01-27 0:30 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-01-31 18:03 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-01-31 18:15 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-01-31 18:28 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-02-01 16:22 ` Stefan Richter
2009-02-01 17:04 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-01 17:40 ` Stefan Richter
2009-02-01 17:47 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-01 18:06 ` Stefan Richter
2009-02-01 18:11 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-01 21:37 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 2:24 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-02-02 6:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 8:42 ` Stefan Richter [this message]
2009-02-02 9:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 9:14 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-02 9:46 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 9:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-02-02 10:03 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-02 20:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-04 9:54 ` Oliver Neukum
2009-02-02 11:39 ` Stefan Richter
2009-02-02 11:32 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-02-02 11:26 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-02-02 5:19 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-02-02 6:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-02-02 9:01 ` Stefan Richter
2009-02-02 14:45 ` Arjan van de Ven
[not found] ` <20090126162807.1131c777.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
2009-01-27 1:46 ` Oleg Nesterov
2009-01-27 8:40 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-01-27 3:07 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2009-01-27 8:57 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-01-27 12:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-02 14:49 ` Daniel Walker
2009-02-02 14:51 ` Frédéric Weisbecker
2009-02-02 15:40 ` Daniel Walker
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