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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	hpa@zytor.com, jeremy@goop.org, cpw@sgi.com, mingo@elte.hu,
	tony.luck@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/10] percpu: implement new dynamic percpu allocator
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:47:35 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49A389F7.9030002@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200902241326.23605.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>

Hello, Rusty.

Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Friday 20 February 2009 13:31:21 Tejun Heo wrote:
>>>    One question.  Are you thinking that to be defined by every SMP arch
>>> long-term?
>> Yeap, definitely.
> 
> Excellent.  That opens some really nice stuff.

Yeap, I think it'll be pretty interesting.

>>> Because there are benefits in having &<percpuvar> == valid
>>> percpuptr, such as passing them around as parameters.  If so, IA64
>>> will want a dedicated per-cpu area for statics (tho it can probably
>>> just map it somehow, but it has to be 64k).
>> Hmmm...  Don't have much idea about ia64 and its magic 64k.  Can it
>> somehow be used for the first chunk?
> 
> Yes, but I think that chunk must not be handed out for dynamic allocations
> but kept in reserve for modules.
> 
> IA64 uses a pinned TLB entry to map this cpu's 64k at __phys_per_cpu_start.
> See __ia64_per_cpu_var() in arch/ia64/include/asm/percpu.h.  This means they
> can also optimize cpu_local_* and read_cpuvar (or whatever it's called now).
> IIUC IA64 needs this region internally, using it for percpu vars is a bonus.

I'll take a look.

>>> These pseudo-constants seem like a really weird thing to do to me.
>> I explained this in the reply to Andrew's comment.  It's
>> non-really-constant-but-should-be-considered-so-by-users thing.  Is it
>> too weird?  Even if I add comment explaning it?
> 
> It's weird; I'd make them __read_mostly and be done with it.

Already dropped.  It seems I was the only one liking it.

>> Hmmm... the reverse mapping can be piggy backed on vmalloc by adding a
>> private pointer to the vm_struct but rbtree isn't too difficult to use
>> so I just did it directly.  Nick, what do you think about adding
>> private field to vm_struct and providing a reverse map function?
> 
> Naah, just walk the arrays to do the mapping.  Cuts a heap of code, and
> we can optimize when someone complains :)
> 
> Walking arrays is cache friendly, too.

It won't make much difference cache line wise here as it needs to
dereference anyway.  It will cut less than a hundred lines of code
comments included.  Given the not-so-large amount of reduced
complexity, I'm a little bit reluctant to cut the code but please feel
free to submit a patch to kill it if you think it's really necessary.

>> As for the sl*b allocation thing, can you please explain in more
>> detail or point me to the patches / threads?
> 
> lkml from 2008-05-30:
> 
> Message-Id: <20080530040021.800522644@sgi.com>:
> Subject: [patch 32/41] cpu alloc: Use in slub
> And:
> Subject: [patch 33/41] cpu alloc: Remove slub fields
> Subject: [patch 34/41] cpu alloc: Page allocator conversion

I'll read them.  Thanks.

>> Thanks.  :-)
> 
> Don't thank me: you're doing all the work!
> Rusty.

Heh... I'm just being coward.  I keep thanks around so that I can
remove it when I wanna curse.  :-P

-- 
tejun

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-02-24  5:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-18 12:04 [PATCHSET x86/core/percpu] implement " Tejun Heo
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 01/10] vmalloc: call flush_cache_vunmap() from unmap_kernel_range() Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 12:06   ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-19 22:36     ` David Miller
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 02/10] module: fix out-of-range memory access Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 12:08   ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-20  7:16   ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 03/10] module: reorder module pcpu related functions Tejun Heo
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 04/10] alloc_percpu: change percpu_ptr to per_cpu_ptr Tejun Heo
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 05/10] alloc_percpu: add align argument to __alloc_percpu Tejun Heo
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 06/10] percpu: kill percpu_alloc() and friends Tejun Heo
2009-02-19  0:17   ` Rusty Russell
2009-03-11 18:36   ` Tony Luck
2009-03-11 22:44     ` Rusty Russell
2009-03-12  2:06     ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 07/10] vmalloc: implement vm_area_register_early() Tejun Heo
2009-02-19  0:55   ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 12:09   ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 08/10] vmalloc: add un/map_kernel_range_noflush() Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 12:17   ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-20  1:27     ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-20  7:15   ` Subject: [PATCH 08/10 UPDATED] " Tejun Heo
2009-02-20  8:32     ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-21  3:21       ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 09/10] percpu: implement new dynamic percpu allocator Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 10:10   ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-19 11:01     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20  2:45       ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 12:07     ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-20  2:35     ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-20  3:04       ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-20  5:29         ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-24  2:52         ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-19 11:51   ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-20  3:01     ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-20  3:02       ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-24  2:56       ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-24  5:27         ` [PATCH tj-percpu] percpu: add __read_mostly to variables which are mostly read only Tejun Heo
2009-02-24  5:47         ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2009-02-24 17:41           ` [PATCH 09/10] percpu: implement new dynamic percpu allocator Luck, Tony
2009-02-26  3:17             ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-27 19:41               ` Luck, Tony
2009-02-19 12:36   ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-20  3:04     ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-20  7:30   ` [PATCH UPDATED " Tejun Heo
2009-02-20  8:37     ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-21  3:23       ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-21  3:42         ` [PATCH tj-percpu] percpu: s/size/bytes/g in new percpu allocator and interface Tejun Heo
2009-02-21  7:48           ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-21  7:55             ` [PATCH tj-percpu] percpu: clean up size usage Tejun Heo
2009-02-21  7:56               ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 10/10] x86: convert to the new dynamic percpu allocator Tejun Heo
2009-02-18 13:43 ` [PATCHSET x86/core/percpu] implement " Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19  0:31   ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 10:51   ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-19 11:06     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 12:14       ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-20  3:08         ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-20  5:36           ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-20  7:33             ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-19  0:30 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 11:07   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20  3:17     ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-20  9:32       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-21  7:10         ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-21  7:33           ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-22 19:38             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23  0:43               ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-23 10:17                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23 13:38                   ` [patch] x86: optimize __pa() to be linear again on 64-bit x86 Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23 14:08                     ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-23 14:53                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-24 16:00                         ` Andi Kleen
2009-02-27  5:57                         ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-27  6:57                           ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-27  7:11                             ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-22 19:27           ` [PATCHSET x86/core/percpu] implement dynamic percpu allocator Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23  0:47             ` Tejun Heo

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