From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
hpa@zytor.com, jeremy@goop.org, cpw@sgi.com, mingo@elte.hu,
tony.luck@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/10] percpu: implement new dynamic percpu allocator
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:47:35 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49A389F7.9030002@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200902241326.23605.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Hello, Rusty.
Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Friday 20 February 2009 13:31:21 Tejun Heo wrote:
>>> One question. Are you thinking that to be defined by every SMP arch
>>> long-term?
>> Yeap, definitely.
>
> Excellent. That opens some really nice stuff.
Yeap, I think it'll be pretty interesting.
>>> Because there are benefits in having &<percpuvar> == valid
>>> percpuptr, such as passing them around as parameters. If so, IA64
>>> will want a dedicated per-cpu area for statics (tho it can probably
>>> just map it somehow, but it has to be 64k).
>> Hmmm... Don't have much idea about ia64 and its magic 64k. Can it
>> somehow be used for the first chunk?
>
> Yes, but I think that chunk must not be handed out for dynamic allocations
> but kept in reserve for modules.
>
> IA64 uses a pinned TLB entry to map this cpu's 64k at __phys_per_cpu_start.
> See __ia64_per_cpu_var() in arch/ia64/include/asm/percpu.h. This means they
> can also optimize cpu_local_* and read_cpuvar (or whatever it's called now).
> IIUC IA64 needs this region internally, using it for percpu vars is a bonus.
I'll take a look.
>>> These pseudo-constants seem like a really weird thing to do to me.
>> I explained this in the reply to Andrew's comment. It's
>> non-really-constant-but-should-be-considered-so-by-users thing. Is it
>> too weird? Even if I add comment explaning it?
>
> It's weird; I'd make them __read_mostly and be done with it.
Already dropped. It seems I was the only one liking it.
>> Hmmm... the reverse mapping can be piggy backed on vmalloc by adding a
>> private pointer to the vm_struct but rbtree isn't too difficult to use
>> so I just did it directly. Nick, what do you think about adding
>> private field to vm_struct and providing a reverse map function?
>
> Naah, just walk the arrays to do the mapping. Cuts a heap of code, and
> we can optimize when someone complains :)
>
> Walking arrays is cache friendly, too.
It won't make much difference cache line wise here as it needs to
dereference anyway. It will cut less than a hundred lines of code
comments included. Given the not-so-large amount of reduced
complexity, I'm a little bit reluctant to cut the code but please feel
free to submit a patch to kill it if you think it's really necessary.
>> As for the sl*b allocation thing, can you please explain in more
>> detail or point me to the patches / threads?
>
> lkml from 2008-05-30:
>
> Message-Id: <20080530040021.800522644@sgi.com>:
> Subject: [patch 32/41] cpu alloc: Use in slub
> And:
> Subject: [patch 33/41] cpu alloc: Remove slub fields
> Subject: [patch 34/41] cpu alloc: Page allocator conversion
I'll read them. Thanks.
>> Thanks. :-)
>
> Don't thank me: you're doing all the work!
> Rusty.
Heh... I'm just being coward. I keep thanks around so that I can
remove it when I wanna curse. :-P
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-24 5:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-18 12:04 [PATCHSET x86/core/percpu] implement " Tejun Heo
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 01/10] vmalloc: call flush_cache_vunmap() from unmap_kernel_range() Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 12:06 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-19 22:36 ` David Miller
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 02/10] module: fix out-of-range memory access Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 12:08 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-20 7:16 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 03/10] module: reorder module pcpu related functions Tejun Heo
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 04/10] alloc_percpu: change percpu_ptr to per_cpu_ptr Tejun Heo
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 05/10] alloc_percpu: add align argument to __alloc_percpu Tejun Heo
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 06/10] percpu: kill percpu_alloc() and friends Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 0:17 ` Rusty Russell
2009-03-11 18:36 ` Tony Luck
2009-03-11 22:44 ` Rusty Russell
2009-03-12 2:06 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 07/10] vmalloc: implement vm_area_register_early() Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 0:55 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 12:09 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 08/10] vmalloc: add un/map_kernel_range_noflush() Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 12:17 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-20 1:27 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-20 7:15 ` Subject: [PATCH 08/10 UPDATED] " Tejun Heo
2009-02-20 8:32 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-21 3:21 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 09/10] percpu: implement new dynamic percpu allocator Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 10:10 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-19 11:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20 2:45 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 12:07 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-20 2:35 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-20 3:04 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-20 5:29 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-24 2:52 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-19 11:51 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-20 3:01 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-20 3:02 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-24 2:56 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-24 5:27 ` [PATCH tj-percpu] percpu: add __read_mostly to variables which are mostly read only Tejun Heo
2009-02-24 5:47 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2009-02-24 17:41 ` [PATCH 09/10] percpu: implement new dynamic percpu allocator Luck, Tony
2009-02-26 3:17 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-27 19:41 ` Luck, Tony
2009-02-19 12:36 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-20 3:04 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-20 7:30 ` [PATCH UPDATED " Tejun Heo
2009-02-20 8:37 ` Andrew Morton
2009-02-21 3:23 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-21 3:42 ` [PATCH tj-percpu] percpu: s/size/bytes/g in new percpu allocator and interface Tejun Heo
2009-02-21 7:48 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-21 7:55 ` [PATCH tj-percpu] percpu: clean up size usage Tejun Heo
2009-02-21 7:56 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-18 12:04 ` [PATCH 10/10] x86: convert to the new dynamic percpu allocator Tejun Heo
2009-02-18 13:43 ` [PATCHSET x86/core/percpu] implement " Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 0:31 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 10:51 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-19 11:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-19 12:14 ` Rusty Russell
2009-02-20 3:08 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-20 5:36 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-20 7:33 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 0:30 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-19 11:07 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-20 3:17 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-20 9:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-21 7:10 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-21 7:33 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-22 19:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23 0:43 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-23 10:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23 13:38 ` [patch] x86: optimize __pa() to be linear again on 64-bit x86 Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23 14:08 ` Nick Piggin
2009-02-23 14:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-24 16:00 ` Andi Kleen
2009-02-27 5:57 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-27 6:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-02-27 7:11 ` Tejun Heo
2009-02-22 19:27 ` [PATCHSET x86/core/percpu] implement dynamic percpu allocator Ingo Molnar
2009-02-23 0:47 ` Tejun Heo
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