From: Jon Hunter <jon-hunter@ti.com>
To: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Dynamic Tick: Allow 32-bit machines to sleep for more than 2.15 seconds
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:20:20 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49EE54B4.9020700@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1240345936.6080.6.camel@localhost>
john stultz wrote:
> The concern is many clocksources wrap after a handful of seconds. The
> acpi_pm is the best example (its only 24 bits wide).
>
> I brought this issue up earlier, and provided some example code that
> could be used to limit the idle time appropriately for the current
> clocksource here:
>
> http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0901.3/02693.html
>
> Jon: Did you see that mail, or is there a reason you didn't adapt this
> code into your patch?
Hi John, yes I did read this email and thanks for bringing this up.
As I looked at this more I noticed that for 64-bit machines that the
max_delta_ns would be a 64-bit integer already and so this change would
only have an impact for 32-bit machines. I understand that there are
more 32-bit machines that 64-bit. However, I was trying to understand
how the wrapping of clocksources, such as the one you mention above, is
handled today for 64-bit machines that could theoretically sleep for
longer periods.
In addition to this as I was reviewing the "tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick()"
function that is configuring the dynamic tick and I noticed that this
code would actually stop the timer altogether if the time for the next
timer event is greater than NEXT_TIMER_MAX_DELTA jiffies. See code
snippet below. This is very unlikely, however, if this scenario was to
occur what would be the impact on the clocksource?
/*
* delta_jiffies >= NEXT_TIMER_MAX_DELTA signals that
* there is no timer pending or at least extremly far
* into the future (12 days for HZ=1000). In this case
* we simply stop the tick timer:
*/
if (unlikely(delta_jiffies >= NEXT_TIMER_MAX_DELTA)) {
ts->idle_expires.tv64 = KTIME_MAX;
if (ts->nohz_mode == NOHZ_MODE_HIGHRES)
hrtimer_cancel(&ts->sched_timer);
goto out;
}
I understand that clocksources need to be handled correctly, but as I
looked into this more I wanted to clarify how this is handled today for
64-bit machines. I appreciate your comments and feedback.
Cheers
Jon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-21 23:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-20 21:16 Jon Hunter
2009-04-21 6:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-04-21 20:32 ` john stultz
2009-04-21 23:20 ` Jon Hunter [this message]
2009-04-22 0:02 ` john stultz
2009-05-07 14:52 ` Jon Hunter
2009-05-08 0:54 ` [RFC][PATCH] Dynamic Tick: Allow 32-bit machines to sleep formore " john stultz
2009-05-08 16:05 ` Jon Hunter
2009-05-09 0:51 ` [RFC][PATCH] Dynamic Tick: Allow 32-bit machines to sleep formorethan " john stultz
2009-05-12 23:35 ` Jon Hunter
2009-05-12 23:58 ` [RFC][PATCH] Dynamic Tick: Allow 32-bit machines to sleep formorethan2.15 seconds john stultz
2009-05-13 15:14 ` Jon Hunter
2009-05-13 16:41 ` John Stultz
2009-05-13 17:54 ` Jon Hunter
2009-05-13 19:21 ` John Stultz
2009-05-15 16:35 ` Jon Hunter
2009-05-15 18:55 ` Jon Hunter
2009-05-16 1:29 ` John Stultz
2009-05-16 1:18 ` John Stultz
2009-05-22 18:21 ` Jon Hunter
2009-05-22 19:23 ` john stultz
2009-05-22 19:54 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-05-26 15:12 ` Jon Hunter
2009-05-26 20:26 ` john stultz
2009-05-22 19:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2009-04-22 0:05 ` [RFC][PATCH] Dynamic Tick: Allow 32-bit machines to sleep for more than 2.15 seconds john stultz
2009-04-22 3:07 ` Jon Hunter
2009-04-22 15:30 ` Chris Friesen
2009-04-22 17:04 ` Jon Hunter
2009-04-22 18:53 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
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