Mel Gorman wrote: > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 04:46:53PM +0100, Christian Ehrhardt wrote: [...] >> The differences in asm are pretty much the same, as before rmqueue_bulk was already inlined the actually intended change to its parameters was negligible. >> I wondered if it would be important if that is a constant value (-1) or if the reason was caused by that shift. So I tried: >> >> 23 @@ -965,7 +965,7 @@ >> 24 set_page_private(page, migratetype); >> 25 list = &page->lru; >> 26 } >> 27 - __mod_zone_page_state(zone, NR_FREE_PAGES, -(i << order)); >> 28 + __mod_zone_page_state(zone, NR_FREE_PAGES, -i); >> 29 spin_unlock(&zone->lock); >> 30 return i; >> 31 } >> [...] > It "fixes" it only by not calling direct reclaim when it should :( yeah as we both realized -1 was not right so it was more a crazy workaround :-) Anyway after that being a dead end again I dug even deeper into the details of direct_reclaim - I think we can agree that out of the counters we already know the race between try_to_free making progress and get_page not getting a page causing the congestion_wait is source of the issue. So what I tried to bring some more light into all that was extending my perf counters to track a few more details in direct_reclaim. Two patches are attached and apply after the other three already available in that thread. The intention is a) to track the time a1) spent in try_to_free_pages a2) consumed after try_to_free_pages until get_page_from_freelist a3) spent in get_pages_from_freelist b1) after seeing that order!=0 -> drain_all_pages I wondered if that might differ even all calls look like they have zero b2) tracking the average amount of pages freed by try_to_free_pages for fast path and slow path (progres&!page) Naming convention (otherwise it might get confusing here) Good case - the scenario e.g. with e084b and 5f8dcc21 reverted resulting in high throughput and a low ratio of direct_reclaim running into progress&!page Bad case - the scenario e.g. on a clean 2.6.32 Fast path - direct reclaim calls that did not run into progress&!page Slow path - direct reclaim calls that ran into progress&!page ending up in a long congestion_wait and therefore called "slow" path Mini summary of what we had before in huge tables: fast path slow path GOOD CASE ~98% ~1-3% BAD CASE ~70% ~30% -> leading to throughput impact of e.g. 600 mb/s with 16 iozone threads (worse with even more threads) Out of the numbers I got the following things might help us to create a new approach to a solution. The timings showed that that the so called slow case is actually much faster passing though direct_reclaim in bad case. GOOD CASE duration a1 Fast-avg-duration_pre_ttf_2_post_ttf 164099 a2 Fast-avg-duration_post_ttf_2_pre_get_page 459 a3 Fast-avg-duration_pre_get_page_2_post_get_page 346 a1 Slow-avg-duration_pre_ttf_2_post_ttf 127621 a2 Slow-avg-duration_post_ttf_2_pre_get_page 1957 a3 Slow-avg-duration_pre_get_page_2_post_get_page 256 BAD CASE duration deviation to good case in % a1 Fast-avg-duration_pre_ttf_2_post_ttf 122921 -25.09% a2 Fast-avg-duration_post_ttf_2_pre_get_page 521 13.53% a3 Fast-avg-duration_pre_get_page_2_post_get_page 244 -29.55% a1 Slow-avg-duration_pre_ttf_2_post_ttf 109740 -14.01% a2 Slow-avg-duration_post_ttf_2_pre_get_page 250 -87.18% a3 Slow-avg-duration_pre_get_page_2_post_get_page 117 -54.16% That means that in the bad case the execution is much faster. Especially in the case that eventually runs into the slow path try_to_free is 14% faster, more important the time between try_to_free and get_pages is 87%! faster => less than a fifth and finally get_page is 54% faster, but that is probably just failing in an almost empty list which is fast^^. As I checked order which always was zero the time is not spent in drain_all_pages and the only other thing left might be cond_resched ?! Everything else are a few assignments so it can't be much else. But why would e.g. not running into schedule in cond_resched cause get_pages to not find anything - I don't know and I would expect it should be the other way around - the faster you get from free to get the more pages should be left. I thought the progress try_to_free_pages is doing might be important as well so I took numbers for that too. >From those I see that the good case as well as the bad case has an average of 62 pages freed in fast path. But in slow path they start to differ - while the good case that is running only seldom in that path anyway frees an average of 1.46 pages (that might be the thing causing it not getting a page eventually) in the bad case it makes a progress of avg 37 pages even in slow path. PAGES-FREED fast path slow path GOOD CASE ~62 ~1.46 BAD CASE ~62 ~37 Thinking of it as asking "how few pages do I have to free until I fall from fast to slow path" the kernels behave different it looks wrong but interesting. The good case only drops to slow path (!page) in case of ~1.46 pages freed while the bad case seems to enter that much earlier with even 37 pages freed. As order is always 0 and get_page afaik about getting just "one" page I wonder where these 37 pages disappeared especially as in bad case it is much faster getting to get_pages after freeing those ~37 pages. Comments and ideas welcome! -- Grüsse / regards, Christian Ehrhardt IBM Linux Technology Center, Open Virtualization