From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
torvalds@linux-foundation.org, mingo@elte.hu,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jeff@garzik.org,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
cl@linux-foundation.org, oleg@redhat.com, axboe@kernel.dk,
dwalker@codeaurora.org, stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de,
florian@mickler.org, andi@firstfloor.org, mst@redhat.com,
randy.dunlap@oracle.com, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCHSET] workqueue: implement and use WQ_UNBOUND
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:59:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C470B46.4040604@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <21485.1279717725@redhat.com>
Hello,
On 07/21/2010 03:08 PM, David Howells wrote:
> Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> wrote:
>
>> As all unbound works are served by the same gcwq, non reentrancy is
>> automatically guaranteed.
>
> That doesn't actually explain _how_ it's non-reentrant. The gcwq includes a
> collection of threads that can execute from it, right? If so, what mechanism
> prevents two threads from executing the same work item, if that work item
> isn't bound to a CPU? I've been trying to figure this out from the code, but
> I don't see it offhand.
Sharing the same gcwq is why workqueues bound to one CPU have
non-reentrancy, so they're using the same mechanism. If it doesn't
work for unbound workqueues, the normal ones are broken too. Each
gcwq keeps track of currently running works in a hash table and looks
whether the work in question is already executing before starting
executing it. It's a bit complex but as a work_struct may be freed
once execution starts, the status needs to be tracked outside.
>>> Btw, how does this fare in an RT system, where work items bound to a CPU
>>> can't get executed because their CPU is busy with an RT thread, even
>>> though there are other, idle CPUs?
>>
>> Sure, there's nothing special about unbound workers. They're just normal
>> kthreads.
>
> I should've been clearer: As I understand it, normal (unbound) worker items
> are bound to the CPU on which they were queued, and will be executed there
> only (barring CPU removal). If that's the case, isn't it possible that work
> items can be prevented from getting execution time by an RT thread that's
> hogging a CPU and won't let go?
Yeah, for bound workqueues, sure. That's exactly the same as the
original workqueue implementation. For unbound workqueues, it doesn't
matter.
Thanks.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-07-21 15:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-20 22:39 Tejun Heo
2010-07-21 13:08 ` David Howells
2010-07-21 14:59 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2010-07-21 15:03 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-21 15:25 ` David Howells
2010-07-21 15:31 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-21 15:38 ` David Howells
2010-07-21 15:42 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-21 15:45 ` David Howells
2010-07-21 15:51 ` Tejun Heo
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-06-29 16:59 [PATCH 34/35] async: use workqueue for worker pool Tejun Heo
2010-06-28 21:03 ` [PATCHSET] workqueue: concurrency managed workqueue, take#6 Tejun Heo
2010-06-28 21:04 ` [PATCH 34/35] async: use workqueue for worker pool Tejun Heo
2010-06-28 22:55 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-29 7:25 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-29 12:18 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-29 15:46 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-29 15:52 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-06-29 15:55 ` Tejun Heo
2010-06-29 16:40 ` Arjan van de Ven
2010-06-29 21:37 ` David Howells
2010-07-02 9:17 ` [PATCHSET] workqueue: implement and use WQ_UNBOUND Tejun Heo
2010-07-02 9:32 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-07 5:41 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-14 9:39 ` Tejun Heo
2010-07-20 22:01 ` David Howells
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