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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
To: Zachary Amsden <zamsden@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	Glauber Costa <glommer@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [KVM timekeeping 10/35] Fix deep C-state TSC desynchronization
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 10:09:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C907F3D.6070709@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C904685.9090402@redhat.com>

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Am 15.09.2010 06:07, Zachary Amsden wrote:
> On 09/13/2010 11:10 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> Am 20.08.2010 10:07, Zachary Amsden wrote:
>>   
>>> When CPUs with unstable TSCs enter deep C-state, TSC may stop
>>> running.  This causes us to require resynchronization.  Since
>>> we can't tell when this may potentially happen, we assume the
>>> worst by forcing re-compensation for it at every point the VCPU
>>> task is descheduled.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Zachary Amsden<zamsden@redhat.com>
>>> ---
>>>   arch/x86/kvm/x86.c |    2 +-
>>>   1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
>>> index 7fc4a55..52b6c21 100644
>>> --- a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
>>> +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
>>> @@ -1866,7 +1866,7 @@ void kvm_arch_vcpu_load(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu,
>>> int cpu)
>>>       }
>>>
>>>       kvm_x86_ops->vcpu_load(vcpu, cpu);
>>> -    if (unlikely(vcpu->cpu != cpu)) {
>>> +    if (unlikely(vcpu->cpu != cpu) || check_tsc_unstable()) {
>>>           /* Make sure TSC doesn't go backwards */
>>>           s64 tsc_delta = !vcpu->arch.last_host_tsc ? 0 :
>>>                   native_read_tsc() - vcpu->arch.last_host_tsc;
>>>      
>> For yet unknown reason, this commit breaks Linux guests here if they are
>> started with only a single VCPU. They hang during boot, obviously no
>> longer receiving interrupts.
>>
>> I'm using kvm-kmod against a 2.6.34 host kernel, so this may be a side
>> effect of the wrapping, though I cannot imagine how.
>>
>> Anyone any ideas?
>>    
> 
> Question: how did you come to the knowledge that this is the commit
> which breaks things?  I'm assuming you bisected, in which case a
> transition from stable -> unstable would have only happened once.

Right.

>  This
> also means the PM suspend event which you observed only happened once,
> so obviously if you bisected successfully, there is a bug which doesn't
> involved the PM transition or the stable -> unstable transition.

Right, see my other posting.

> 
> Your host TSC must have desynchronized during the PM transition, and
> this change compensates the TSC on an unstable host to effectively show
> run time, not real time.  Perhaps the lack of catchup code (to catch
> back up to real time) is triggering the bug.

I'm still unsure if KVM is right in declaring the TSC unstable. It looks
like Linux is less picky here - are the requirements different?

> 
> In any case, I'll proceed with the forcing of unstable TSC and HPET
> clocksource and see what happens.

I tried that before, but it did not trigger the issue that kvm-clock
guests no longer boot properly. This only happens if the TSC is marked
unstable.

Jan


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  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-15  8:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1282291669-25709-1-git-send-email-zamsden@redhat.com>
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 01/35] Drop vm_init_tsc Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 16:54   ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 02/35] Convert TSC writes to TSC offset writes Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 03/35] Move TSC offset writes to common code Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 17:06   ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-24  0:51     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 04/35] Fix SVM VMCB reset Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 05/35] Move TSC reset out of vmcb_init Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 17:08   ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-24  0:52     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 06/35] TSC reset compensation Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 07/35] Make cpu_tsc_khz updates use local CPU Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 08/35] Warn about unstable TSC Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 17:28   ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-24  0:56     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 09/35] Unify TSC logic Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 10/35] Fix deep C-state TSC desynchronization Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 17:30   ` Glauber Costa
2010-09-14  9:10   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-09-14  9:27     ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-14 10:40       ` Jan Kiszka
2010-09-14 10:47         ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-14 19:32         ` Zachary Amsden
2010-09-14 22:26           ` Jan Kiszka
2010-09-14 23:40             ` Zachary Amsden
2010-09-15  5:34               ` Jan Kiszka
2010-09-15  7:55                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-09-15  8:04                   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-09-15 12:29               ` Glauber Costa
2010-09-15  4:07     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-09-15  8:09       ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2010-09-15 12:32         ` Glauber Costa
2010-09-15 18:27           ` Jan Kiszka
2010-09-17 22:09             ` Zachary Amsden
2010-09-17 22:31               ` Zachary Amsden
2010-09-18 23:53                 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 11/35] Add helper functions for time computation Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 17:34   ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-24  0:58     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 12/35] Robust TSC compensation Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 17:40   ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-24  1:01     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-24 21:33   ` Daniel Verkamp
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 13/35] Perform hardware_enable in CPU_STARTING callback Zachary Amsden
2010-08-27 16:32   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-08-27 23:43     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-30  9:10       ` Jan Kiszka
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 14/35] Add clock sync request to hardware enable Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 15/35] Move scale_delta into common header Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 16/35] Fix a possible backwards warp of kvmclock Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 17/35] Implement getnsboottime kernel API Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 18:39   ` john stultz
2010-08-20 23:37     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-21  0:02       ` john stultz
2010-08-21  0:52         ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-21  1:04           ` john stultz
2010-08-21  1:22             ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-27 18:05   ` Jan Kiszka
2010-08-27 23:48     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-30 18:07       ` Jan Kiszka
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 18/35] Use getnsboottime in KVM Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 19/35] Add timekeeping documentation Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 17:50   ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 20/35] Make math work for other scales Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 21/35] Track max tsc_khz Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 22/35] Track tsc last write in vcpu Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 23/35] Set initial TSC rate conversion factors Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 24/35] Timer request function renaming Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 25/35] Add clock catchup mode Zachary Amsden
2010-08-25 17:27   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-08-25 20:48     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-25 22:01       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-08-25 23:38         ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-26  0:17         ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 26/35] Catchup slower TSC to guest rate Zachary Amsden
2010-09-07  3:44   ` Dong, Eddie
2010-09-07 22:14     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 27/35] Add TSC trapping Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 28/35] Unstable TSC write compensation Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 29/35] TSC overrun protection Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 30/35] IOCTL for setting TSC rate Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 17:56   ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-21 16:11     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 31/35] Exit conditions for TSC trapping Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 32/35] Entry " Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 33/35] Indicate reliable TSC in kvmclock Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20 17:45   ` Glauber Costa
2010-08-24  1:14     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 34/35] Remove dead code Zachary Amsden
2010-08-20  8:07 ` [KVM timekeeping 35/35] Add some debug stuff Zachary Amsden

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