Il 17/12/2010 20:31, Harald Gustafsson ha scritto: >>> We already did the very same thing (for another EU Project called >>> FRESCOR), although it was done in an userspace sort of daemon. It was >>> also able to consider other "high level" parameters like some estimation >>> of the QoS of each application and of the global QoS of the system. >>> >>> However, converting the basic mechanism into a CPUfreq governor should >>> be easily doable... The only problem is finding the time for that! ;-P >> Ah, I think Harald will solve that for you,.. :) > Yes, I don't mind doing that. Could you point me to the right part of > the FRESCOR code, Dario? Hi there, I'm sorry to join so late this discussion, but the unprecedented 20cm of snow in Pisa had some non-negligible drawbacks on my return flight from Perth :-). Let me try to briefly recap what the outcomes of FRESCOR were, w.r.t. power management (but usually I'm not that brief :-) ): 1. from a requirements analysis phase, it comes out that it should be possible to specify the individual runtimes for each possible frequency, as it is well-known that the way computation times scale to CPU frequency is application-dependent (and platform-dependent); this assumes that as a developer I can specify the possible configurations of my real-time app, then the OS will be free to pick the CPU frequency that best suites its power management logic (i.e., keeping the minimum frequency by which I can meet all the deadlines). Requirements Analysis: http://www.frescor.org/index.php?mact=Uploads,cntnt01,getfile,0&cntnt01showtemplate=false&cntnt01upload_id=62&cntnt01returnid=54 Proposed API: http://www.frescor.org/index.php?mact=Uploads,cntnt01,getfile,0&cntnt01showtemplate=false&cntnt01upload_id=105&cntnt01returnid=54 I also attach the API we implemented, however consider it is a mix of calls for doing both what I wrote above, and building an OS-independent abstraction layer for dealing with CPU frequency scaling (and not only) on the heterogeneous OSes we had in FRESCOR; 2. this was also assuming, at an API level, a quite static settings (typical of hard RT), in which I configure the system and don't change its frequency too often; for example, implications of power switches on hard real-time requirements (i.e., time windows in which the CPU is not operating during the switch, and limits on the max sustainable switching frequencies by apps and the like) have not been stated through the API; 3. for soft real-time contexts and Linux (consider FRESCOR targeted both hard RT on RT OSes and soft RT on Linux), we played with a much simpler trivial linear scaling, which is exactly what has been proposed and implemented by someone in this thread on top of SCHED_DEADLINE (AFAIU); however, there's a trick which cannot be neglected, i.e., *change protocol* (see 5); benchmarks on MPEG-2 decoding times showed that the linear approximation is not that bad, but the best interpolating ratio between the computing times in different CPU frequencies do not perfectly conform to the frequencies ratios; we didn't make any attempt of extensive evaluation over different workloads so far. See Figure 4.1 in D-AQ2v2: http://www.frescor.org/index.php?mact=Uploads,cntnt01,getfile,0&cntnt01showtemplate=false&cntnt01upload_id=82&cntnt01returnid=54 4. I would say that, given the tendency to over-provision the runtime (WCET) for hard real-time contexts, it would not bee too much of a burden for a hard RT developer to properly over-provision the required budget in presence of a trivial runtime rescaling policy like in 2.; however, in order to make everybody happy, it doesn't seem a bad idea to have something like: 4a) use the fine runtimes specified by the user if they are available; 4b) use the trivially rescaled runtimes if the user only specified a single runtime, of course it should be clear through the API what is the frequency the user is referring its runtime to, in such case (e.g., maximum one ?) 5. Mode Change Protocol: whenever a frequency switch occurs (e.g., dictated by the non-RT workload fluctuations), runtimes cannot simply be rescaled instantaneously: keeping it short, the simplest thing we can do is relying on the various CBS servers implemented in the scheduler to apply the change from the next "runtime recharge", i.e., the next period. This creates the potential problem that the RT tasks have a non-negligible transitory for the instances crossing the CPU frequency switch, in which they do not have enough runtime for their work. Now, the general "rule of thumb" is straightforward: make room first, then "pack", i.e., we need to consider 2 distinct cases: 5a) we want to *increase the CPU frequency*; we can immediately increase the frequency, then the RT applications will have a temporary over-provisioning of runtime (still tuned for the slower frequency case), however as soon as we're sure the CPU frequency switch completed, we can lower the runtimes to the new values; 5b) we want to *decrease the CPU frequency*; unfortunately, here we need to proceed in the other way round: first, we need to increase the runtimes of the RT applications to the new values, then, as soon as we're sure all the scheduling servers made the change (waiting at most for a time equal to the maximum configured RT period), then we can actually perform the frequency switch. Of course, before switching the frequency, there's an assumption: that the new runtimes after the freq decrease are still schedulable, so the CPU freq switching logic needs to be aware of the allocated RT reservations. The protocol in 5. has been implemented completely in user-space as a modification to the powernowd daemon, in the context of an extended version of a paper in which we were automagically guessing the whole set of scheduling parameters for periodic RT applications (EuroSys 2010). The modified powernowd was considering both the whole RT utilization as imposed by the RT reservations, and the non-RT utilization as measured on the CPU. The paper will appear on ACM TECS, but who knows when, so here u can find it (see Section 7.5 "Power Management"): http://retis.sssup.it/~tommaso/publications/ACM-TECS-2010.pdf (last remark: no attempt to deal with multi-cores and their various power switching capabilities, on this paper . . .) Last, but not least, the whole point in the above discussion is the assumption that it is meaningful to have a CPU frequency switching policy, as opposed to merely CPU idle-ing. Perhaps on old embedded CPUs this is still the case. Unfortunately, from preliminary measurements made on a few systems I use every day through a cheap power measurement device attached on the power cable, I could actually see that for RT workloads only it is worth to leave the system at the maximum frequency and exploit the much higher time spent in idle mode(s), except when the system is completely idle. If you're interested, I can share the collected data sets. Bye (and apologies for the length). T. -- Tommaso Cucinotta, Computer Engineering PhD, Researcher ReTiS Lab, Scuola Superiore Sant'Anna, Pisa, Italy Tel +39 050 882 024, Fax +39 050 882 003 http://retis.sssup.it/people/tommaso