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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Mike Snitzer <snitzer@gmail.com>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@novell.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2.6.38-rc5 2/2] block: blk-flush shouldn't call directly into q->request_fn() __blk_run_queue()
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 20:41:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D7534D6.7020000@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <x49mxl6sot4.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com>

On 2011-03-07 20:39, Jeff Moyer wrote:
> Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> writes:
> 
>> On 2011-03-07 20:33, Jeff Moyer wrote:
>>> Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> Hello, Jens.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 08:46:46AM -0500, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>>>> Right, thanks.  Jens, after you apply the two fixes for 2.6.38, I can
>>>>>> create a merge branch for for-2.6.39/core which you can pull.  Would
>>>>>> that work for you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, that would be great. I'm applying them now.
>>>>
>>>> Okay, please pull from the following branch to receive the merge
>>>> between linux-2.6-block:for-linus and :for-2.6.39/core.
>>>>
>>>>  git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tj/misc.git block-for-2.6.39-core
>>>>
>>>> HEAD is e83a46bbb1d4c03defd733a64b727632a40059ad but git.korg seems a
>>>> bit slow to sync, so if you don't see the commit there, please pull
>>>> from master.korg.
>>>>
>>>>  ssh://master.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tj/misc.git block-for-2.6.39-core
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> I know I'm coming to the party late (and maybe wrong), but I've got some
>>> questions here.
>>>
>>> Tejun, you introduced a commit to the ide driver that made it block in
>>> its request function.  As far as I know, that's not allowed.  For scsi,
>>> at least, it has always allowed calling back into the request function
>>> from the completion handler, and I think this is actully the common case
>>> (not some corner case).
>>>
>>> So, why doesn't the ide driver see calls back into its request function
>>> from the completion handler?  It's clear that it calls blk_end_request
>>> from ide_end_rq, which can definitely call __blk_run_queue.  In other
>>> words, why is it that the flush requests are triggerring this problem
>>> while normal I/O isn't?
>>>
>>> I think the real issue may just be that the ide driver is blocking in
>>> its request function.  What have I missed?
>>
>> So the only case where the request_fn is called and you cannot block, is
>> if you call it from your completion function. Any other invocation
>> should be from process context. As long as you remember to drop the
>> queue lock and re-enable interrupts, it should work. It's not great
>> style and I would not recommend it for a performance environment, but it
>> should work.
> 
> So are you agreeing with me or disagreeing?  ;-)  It sounds to me like
> you're saying that the ide driver should be able to cope with being
> called from softirq context.

I'm just stating how it should work :-)

But yes, it sounds like IDE is violating this rule and that's why it was
broken. Even with that, having explicit control of the queue running
does make sense.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2011-03-07 19:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-17 11:15 [PATCH v2.6.38-rc5 1/2] block: add @force_kblockd to __blk_run_queue() Tejun Heo
2011-02-17 11:16 ` [PATCH v2.6.38-rc5 2/2] block: blk-flush shouldn't call directly into q->request_fn() __blk_run_queue() Tejun Heo
2011-02-17 15:01   ` Mike Snitzer
2011-02-18  9:49     ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-02 13:46       ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-04 18:25         ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-07  8:41           ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-07 19:33           ` Jeff Moyer
2011-03-07 19:36             ` Jens Axboe
2011-03-07 19:39               ` Jeff Moyer
2011-03-07 19:41                 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2011-03-07 19:50                   ` Jeff Moyer
2011-03-08  7:54                     ` Tejun Heo
2011-03-02 12:53 ` [PATCH v2.6.38-rc5 1/2] block: add @force_kblockd to __blk_run_queue() Jan Beulich

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