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From: Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>
To: Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@gmail.com>
Cc: huang ying <huang.ying.caritas@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Robert Richter <robert.richter@amd.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] x86, NMI, Treat unknown NMI as hardware error
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 09:09:45 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DD07959.4030608@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DCF7413.4070704@gmail.com>

On 05/15/2011 02:34 PM, Cyrill Gorcunov wrote:
> On 05/15/2011 04:06 AM, huang ying wrote:
> ...
>>>
>>> yes, is not good. But at least we *must* provide a way to turn this new feature off
>>> via command line I think. One of a reason for me is perf unknown nmis (at moment we seems
>>> to have captured and cured all parasite NMIs sources but there is no guarantee we wont
>>> meet them in future due to some code change or whatever). And bloating trap.c with
>>> new if()'s is not that good I guess, that is why I asked if there a way to do all the
>>> work via notifiers ;)
>>
>> Yes.  We should consider about perf unknown NMI issues.  But compared
>> with pushing all magic to user, I think the better way is to have a
>> better default behavior in kernel.  For example, we can turn off
>> unknown NMI as hwerr logic temporarily if there are more than 1 perf
>> NMI events in action.  Is that reasonable?
> 
>   I'm personally fine even if it's enabled by default, only worried to have
> an option to disable hwerr from boot line.

The white list mechanism is not sufficient?  Spurious unknown NMI can
occur on white list machines?  People don't want to protect their data?

>> And, I am not a big fan of notifiers, that makes code hard to be
>> understood.  If you have concerns about the size of traps.c, we can
>> move all NMI logic to a new file.
> 
>   Ying, the concern is rather related to the code scheme in general. Since
> we have notifiers I think the better way to be consistent here and use
> hwerr notifier too. But it's IMHO ;)

As for go notifiers or not.  IMHO, a rule can be:

- If it is something like a driver, than it should go notifier
- If it is architectural/PC defacto standard, it can sit outside of
notifier.

I think that seeing unknown NMI as hardware error should be part of PC
defacto standard.  Do you think so?

Best Regards,
Huang Ying

  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-16  1:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-05-13  8:23 Huang Ying
2011-05-13 12:45 ` Don Zickus
2011-05-13 13:00   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 13:24     ` huang ying
2011-05-13 15:20       ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 16:00         ` Don Zickus
2011-05-16 11:29           ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-16 19:19             ` Don Zickus
2011-05-17  8:50               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-17  7:41             ` Huang Ying
2011-05-17  8:53               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-19  6:44                 ` Huang Ying
2011-05-20 11:58                   ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-14  0:56         ` huang ying
2011-05-13 13:17   ` huang ying
2011-05-13 13:51     ` Don Zickus
2011-05-14  0:20       ` huang ying
2011-05-14  4:11         ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-13 15:17 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-05-14  0:26   ` huang ying
2011-05-14  7:51     ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-05-15  0:06       ` huang ying
2011-05-15  6:34         ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-05-16  1:09           ` Huang Ying [this message]
2011-05-16 19:03             ` Don Zickus
2011-05-16 19:53               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-05-17  5:39               ` Huang Ying
2011-05-17 14:24                 ` Don Zickus
2011-05-17 16:38                   ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-17 17:57                     ` Don Zickus
2011-05-17 18:18                       ` Andi Kleen
2011-05-17 19:07                         ` Don Zickus
2011-05-20  8:13                           ` Huang Ying
2011-06-09 12:09                             ` Don Zickus
2011-06-09 15:22                               ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-06-13  1:34                               ` Huang Ying
2011-05-16 19:44             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2011-05-17  7:32               ` Huang Ying
2011-05-14  0:47   ` huang ying

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