From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
Cc: Nikunj A Dadhania <nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
peterz@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com, bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] Gang scheduling in CFS
Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:16:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F04898B.1080600@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F048295.1050907@redhat.com>
On 01/04/2012 06:47 PM, Rik van Riel wrote:
>> So it looks like the default is optimal, at least wrt the cases you
>> tested and your test workload.
>
>
> It depends on the workload.
>
> I believe ebizzy synchronously bounces messages around between
> userland threads, and may benefit from lower latency preemption
> and re-scheduling.
>
> Workloads like AMQP do asynchronous messaging, and are likely
> to benefit from having a lower number of switches.
>
> I do not know which kind of workload is more prevalent.
>
> Another worry with gang scheduling is scalability. One of
> the reasons Linux scales well to larger systems is that a
> lot of things are done CPU local, without communicating
> things with other CPUs. Making the scheduling algorithm
> system-global has the potential to add in a lot of overhead.
>
> Likewise, removing the ability to migrate workloads to idle
> CPUs is likely to hurt a lot of real world workloads.
>
> Benchmarks don't care, because they run full-out. However,
> users do not run benchmarks nearly as much as they run
> actual workloads...
>
I think we can solve it at the guest level. The paravirt ticketlock
stuff introduces wait/wake calls (actually wait is just a HLT
instruction); we could spin for a while, then HLT until the other side
wakes us. We should do this for all sites that busy wait.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-01-04 17:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-12-19 8:33 Nikunj A. Dadhania
2011-12-19 8:34 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] sched: Adding cpu.gang file to cpu cgroup Nikunj A. Dadhania
2011-12-19 8:34 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] sched: Adding gang scheduling infrastrucure Nikunj A. Dadhania
2011-12-19 15:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-19 16:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-20 1:43 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2011-12-20 1:39 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2011-12-19 8:34 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] sched: Gang using set_next_buddy Nikunj A. Dadhania
2011-12-19 8:35 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] sched:Implement set_gang_buddy Nikunj A. Dadhania
2011-12-19 15:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-20 1:43 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2011-12-26 2:30 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2011-12-19 11:23 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] Gang scheduling in CFS Ingo Molnar
2011-12-19 11:44 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-19 11:50 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2011-12-19 11:59 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-19 12:06 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2011-12-19 12:50 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-19 13:09 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2011-12-19 11:45 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2011-12-19 13:22 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2011-12-19 16:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-21 10:39 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2011-12-21 10:43 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-23 3:20 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2011-12-23 10:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-25 10:58 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-25 15:45 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-26 3:14 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2011-12-26 9:05 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-26 11:33 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2011-12-26 11:41 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-27 1:47 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2011-12-27 9:15 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-27 10:24 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2011-12-27 3:15 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2011-12-27 9:17 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-27 9:44 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2011-12-27 9:51 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-27 10:10 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2011-12-27 10:34 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-27 10:43 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2011-12-27 10:53 ` Avi Kivity
2011-12-30 9:51 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-12-30 10:10 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2011-12-31 2:21 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-01-02 4:20 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-01-02 9:39 ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-02 10:22 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-01-02 9:37 ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-02 10:30 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-01-02 13:33 ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-04 10:52 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-01-04 14:41 ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-04 14:56 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-01-04 17:13 ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-05 6:57 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-01-04 16:47 ` Rik van Riel
2012-01-04 17:16 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2012-01-04 20:56 ` Rik van Riel
2012-01-04 21:31 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-04 21:41 ` Avi Kivity
2012-01-05 9:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-02-20 8:08 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-02-20 8:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-02-20 10:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-02-20 11:53 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2012-02-20 12:02 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2012-02-20 12:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-01-05 2:10 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2011-12-19 15:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-12-19 16:09 ` Alan Cox
2011-12-19 22:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-12-20 1:56 ` Nikunj A Dadhania
2011-12-20 8:52 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
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