From: "Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
"Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] mce: fix warning messages about static struct mce_device
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 01:01:46 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F171E22.7000104@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPXgP10Du4nJ_hdfwqV0Fr6XEVkTMO6jZ_TS_T-J-grDG7nKJw@mail.gmail.com>
On 01/19/2012 12:20 AM, Kay Sievers wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 19:10, Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> wrote:
>
>> There's nothing special about the driver model code in this respect.
>> The same restriction applies wherever object lifetimes are controlled
>> by reference counting.
>
> Right. But it might not be obvious what 's the background here:
>
> An allocated device object(memory) usually represents an actual
> device(hardware). The object can have N users. Every of the users is
> required to take a reference to the object, which pins the object's
> memory as long as any of the N users might need to access it.
>
> In a hotplug world, we deal with device-removal. On disconnect, we
> usually just orphan the object, we remove it from visibility,
> disconnect the device <-> object relation.
>
> All of the N users with a reference can still access the memory, they
> just do not talk to a real device anymore. The invalidated/orphaned
> state is communicated otherwise by locks and flags in the device
> object. Only after all of the N users left the object alone, the
> memory of the orphan if free'd.
>
> If in the time-window between disconnecting the object from the device
> and freeing the orphaned object's memory, the same device comes back,
> we allocate a new object which is associated with the device. It
> usually has the same name and same properties as the original one.
>
> This way, the new object is full functional, does not conflict with
> the older one, and also all the users of the old memory are still fine
> and can cleanup a lazy as they need without much synchronization.
>
> Now, all that might not apply to machinecheck, and it might be that
> machinecheck is fully able to handle all that just fine with the
> statically allocated same memory -- allocating new device memory on
> hotplug is still the model that should always be preferred over any
> other, if possible.
>
> It's usually the simplest safest and most flexible for anything that
> can come and go at any time, and memory which might be in used by
> other running code.
>
Thanks for the crystal clear explanations from both you and Alan. Now
I am convinced.. :-) And thanks to Tony for bringing this up!
Regards,
Srivatsa S. Bhat
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-01-18 19:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-01-16 22:40 Greg KH
2012-01-17 0:14 ` Djalal Harouni
2012-01-17 0:15 ` Greg KH
2012-01-17 0:21 ` Linus Torvalds
2012-01-17 1:00 ` Greg KH
2012-01-17 8:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-17 15:51 ` Greg KH
2012-01-17 16:28 ` Greg KH
2012-01-18 9:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-18 14:42 ` Greg KH
2012-01-18 15:51 ` Alan Stern
2012-01-18 17:28 ` Luck, Tony
2012-01-18 17:54 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-01-18 18:10 ` Alan Stern
2012-01-18 18:50 ` Kay Sievers
2012-01-18 19:00 ` Luck, Tony
2012-01-18 19:31 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat [this message]
2012-01-19 12:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-19 13:29 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-01-19 15:13 ` Alan Stern
2012-01-19 19:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-19 20:52 ` Alan Stern
2012-01-19 12:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-01-26 23:49 ` MCE: convert static array of pointers to per-cpu variables Greg KH
2012-01-27 13:14 ` Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-01-17 12:36 ` [PATCH] mce: fix warning messages about static struct mce_device Srivatsa S. Bhat
2012-01-17 15:52 ` Greg KH
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