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From: Clemens Ladisch <clemens@ladisch.de>
To: Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>
Cc: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>,
	Andy Grover <agrover@redhat.com>, Chris Boot <bootc@bootc.net>,
	target-devel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: FireWire/SBP2 Target mode
Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2012 11:09:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F2A60DC.9030007@ladisch.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F2A55B9.4040005@panasas.com>

Boaz Harrosh wrote:
> [...] So what do the other FireWire protocols use, like networking,
> DV video, audio?

Their own standard or non-standard mechanism.

> they have yet another encapsulating transport other than SBP-2?

These other devices require isochronous or broadcast transfers, which
SBP-2/3 does not handle well or at all.  It might be possible to use
SBP-3 for control commands (which is exactly what SBP-3's AV/C support
is), but using it would not bring any worthwhile benefits over existing
transports, and would just introduce incompatibilities with all previous
soft- and hardware.


Regards,
Clemens

  reply	other threads:[~2012-02-02 10:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-17 14:51 Chris Boot
2011-08-17 18:57 ` Stefan Richter
2011-08-18 16:19 ` Clemens Ladisch
2012-02-01 19:50   ` Andy Grover
2012-02-01 21:41     ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-02  9:22       ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-02-02 10:09         ` Clemens Ladisch [this message]
2012-02-06 13:13           ` Chris Boot
2012-02-06 14:43             ` Clemens Ladisch
2012-02-06 14:51               ` Chris Boot
2012-02-06 20:26                 ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-06 22:28                   ` Chris Boot
2012-02-06 23:00                     ` Julian Calaby
2012-02-06 23:09                       ` Chris Boot
2012-02-07  7:38                         ` Chris Boot
2012-02-07 10:06                           ` Julian Calaby
2012-02-07 19:17                           ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-07 19:53                             ` Chris Boot
2012-02-11 19:43 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/13] firewire-sbp-target: FireWire SBP-2 SCSI target Chris Boot
2012-02-11 19:44   ` [PATCH 01/13] firewire: Add function to get speed from opaque struct fw_request Chris Boot
2012-02-11 19:44   ` [PATCH 02/13] firewire: Add EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(fw_card_release) Chris Boot
2012-02-11 19:44   ` [PATCH 03/13] firewire-sbp-target: Add Kconfig, Makefile and TODO Chris Boot
2012-02-13 12:50     ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2012-02-11 19:44   ` [PATCH 04/13] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_base.h header Chris Boot
2012-02-11 19:44   ` [PATCH 05/13] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_configfs.c Chris Boot
2012-02-11 19:44   ` [PATCH 06/13] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_fabric.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-02-13 13:06     ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
     [not found]       ` <337FFBD7-6B4A-41CA-BB57-6038C935B5BF@bootc.net>
2012-02-13 19:53         ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-13 22:41         ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2012-02-11 19:44   ` [PATCH 07/13] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_proto.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-02-11 19:44   ` [PATCH 08/13] firewire-sbp-target: add sbp_management_agent.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-02-11 19:44   ` [PATCH 09/13] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_login.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-02-11 19:44   ` [PATCH 10/13] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_target_agent.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-02-11 19:44   ` [PATCH 11/13] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_scsi_cmnd.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-02-11 19:44   ` [PATCH 12/13] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_util.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-02-11 19:44   ` [PATCH 13/13] firewire-sbp-target: Add to target Kconfig and Makefile Chris Boot
2012-02-12 14:12   ` [RFC][PATCH 00/13] firewire-sbp-target: FireWire SBP-2 SCSI target Stefan Richter
2012-02-12 15:13     ` Chris Boot
2012-02-12 16:16       ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-15 14:47   ` [PATCH v2 00/11] " Chris Boot
2012-02-15 14:47     ` [PATCH v2 01/11] firewire: Add function to get speed from opaque struct fw_request Chris Boot
2012-02-15 19:09       ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-15 19:10         ` Chris Boot
2012-02-15 22:01           ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-16  9:12             ` Chris Boot
2012-02-15 14:47     ` [PATCH v2 02/11] firewire: Move fw_card kref functions into linux/firewire.h Chris Boot
2012-02-15 19:10       ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-16  9:18         ` Chris Boot
2012-02-15 14:47     ` [PATCH v2 03/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add Kconfig, Makefile and TODO Chris Boot
2012-02-15 14:47     ` [PATCH v2 04/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_base.h header Chris Boot
2012-02-15 19:15       ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-16  9:55         ` Chris Boot
2012-02-15 14:47     ` [PATCH v2 05/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_configfs.c Chris Boot
2012-02-15 19:21       ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-16  9:57         ` Chris Boot
2012-02-16 13:48           ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-15 14:47     ` [PATCH v2 06/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_fabric.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-02-15 14:47     ` [PATCH v2 07/11] firewire-sbp-target: add sbp_management_agent.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-02-15 19:48       ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-16 10:28         ` Chris Boot
2012-02-16 14:12           ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-15 14:47     ` [PATCH v2 08/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_login.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-02-15 21:00       ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-16 11:21         ` Chris Boot
2012-03-03 17:37           ` Stefan Richter
2012-03-15 17:48             ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-02-15 14:47     ` [PATCH v2 09/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_target_agent.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-02-15 21:27       ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-16 11:25         ` Chris Boot
2012-02-18 14:59           ` Stefan Richter
2012-02-18 15:05             ` Chris Boot
2012-02-15 14:47     ` [PATCH v2 10/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_scsi_cmnd.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-02-15 14:47     ` [PATCH v2 11/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add to target Kconfig and Makefile Chris Boot
2012-04-11 14:20     ` [PATCH v3 00/11] firewire-sbp-target: FireWire SBP-2 SCSI target Chris Boot
2012-04-11 14:20       ` [PATCH 01/11] firewire: Add function to get speed from opaque struct fw_request Chris Boot
2012-04-11 14:20       ` [PATCH 02/11] firewire: Move fw_card kref functions into linux/firewire.h Chris Boot
2012-04-11 14:20       ` [PATCH 03/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add Kconfig, Makefile and TODO Chris Boot
2012-04-11 14:20       ` [PATCH 04/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_base.h header Chris Boot
2012-04-11 14:20       ` [PATCH 05/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_configfs.c Chris Boot
2012-04-11 14:20       ` [PATCH 06/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_fabric.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-04-11 14:20       ` [PATCH 07/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_management_agent.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-04-11 14:20       ` [PATCH 08/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_login.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-04-14 10:17         ` Stefan Richter
2012-04-11 14:20       ` [PATCH 09/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_target_agent.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-04-14 10:49         ` Stefan Richter
2012-04-14 11:33           ` Stefan Richter
2012-04-11 14:20       ` [PATCH 10/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add sbp_scsi_cmnd.{c,h} Chris Boot
2012-04-11 14:20       ` [PATCH 11/11] firewire-sbp-target: Add to target Kconfig and Makefile Chris Boot
2012-04-12 21:02       ` [PATCH v3 00/11] firewire-sbp-target: FireWire SBP-2 SCSI target Andy Grover
2012-04-13  3:03       ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2012-04-13 13:16         ` Chris Boot
2012-04-14  1:23           ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2012-04-14  9:12             ` [PATCH 0/2] sbp-target: cleanup after merge into single file Chris Boot
2012-04-14  9:12               ` [PATCH 1/2] sbp-target: minor cleanups after merging " Chris Boot
2012-04-14  9:12               ` [PATCH 2/2] sbp-target: update TODO file Chris Boot
2012-04-14 21:44               ` [PATCH 0/2] sbp-target: cleanup after merge into single file Nicholas A. Bellinger
2012-04-14 23:11                 ` Stefan Richter
2012-04-15  1:22                   ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2012-04-17 10:48             ` [PATCH v3 00/11] firewire-sbp-target: FireWire SBP-2 SCSI target Chris Boot
2012-04-18  7:17               ` Nicholas A. Bellinger

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