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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
To: Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: NVM Mapping API
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 16:02:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FB2E069.7060703@amacapital.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120515133450.GD22985@linux.intel.com>

On 05/15/2012 06:34 AM, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> 
> There are a number of interesting non-volatile memory (NVM) technologies
> being developed.  Some of them promise DRAM-comparable latencies and
> bandwidths.  At Intel, we've been thinking about various ways to present
> those to software.  This is a first draft of an API that supports the
> operations we see as necessary.  Patches can follow easily enough once
> we've settled on an API.
> 
> We think the appropriate way to present directly addressable NVM to
> in-kernel users is through a filesystem.  Different technologies may want
> to use different filesystems, or maybe some forms of directly addressable
> NVM will want to use the same filesystem as each other.

> What we'd really like is for people to think about how they might use
> fast NVM inside the kernel.  There's likely to be a lot of it (at least in
> servers); all the technologies are promising cheaper per-bit prices than
> DRAM, so it's likely to be sold in larger capacities than DRAM is today.
> 
> Caching is one obvious use (be it FS-Cache, Bcache, Flashcache or
> something else), but I bet there are more radical things we can do
> with it.  What if we stored the inode cache in it?  Would booting with
> a hot inode cache improve boot times?  How about storing the tree of
> 'struct devices' in it so we don't have to rescan the busses at startup?
> 

I would love to use this from userspace.  If I could carve out a little
piece of NVM as a file (or whatever) and mmap it, I could do all kinds
of fun things with that.  It would be nice if it had well-defined, or at
least configurable or discoverable, caching properties (e.g. WB, WT, WC,
UC, etc.).

(Even better would be a way to make a clone of an fd that only allows
mmap, but that's a mostly unrelated issue.)

--Andy

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-05-15 23:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-15 13:34 Matthew Wilcox
2012-05-15 17:46 ` Greg KH
2012-05-16 15:57   ` Matthew Wilcox
2012-05-18 12:07     ` Marco Stornelli
2012-05-15 23:02 ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2012-05-16 16:02   ` Matthew Wilcox
2012-05-31 17:53     ` Andy Lutomirski
2012-05-16  6:24 ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
2012-05-16 16:10   ` Matthew Wilcox
2012-05-17  9:06     ` Vyacheslav Dubeyko
2012-05-16 21:58   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2012-05-17 19:06     ` Matthew Wilcox
2012-05-16  9:52 ` James Bottomley
2012-05-16 17:35   ` Matthew Wilcox
2012-05-16 19:58     ` Christian Stroetmann
2012-05-19 22:19       ` Christian Stroetmann
2012-05-17  9:54     ` James Bottomley
2012-05-17 18:59       ` Matthew Wilcox
2012-05-18  9:03         ` James Bottomley
2012-05-18 10:13           ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-05-18 14:49           ` Matthew Wilcox
2012-05-18 15:08             ` Alan Cox
2012-05-18 15:31             ` James Bottomley
2012-05-18 17:19               ` Matthew Wilcox
2012-05-16 13:04 ` Boaz Harrosh
2012-05-16 18:33   ` Matthew Wilcox
2012-05-18  9:33 ` Arnd Bergmann

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