From: Vernon Yang <vernon2gm@gmail.com>
To: Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@kernel.org, kasong@tencent.com,
qi.zheng@linux.dev, shakeel.butt@linux.dev,
axelrasmussen@google.com, yuanchu@google.com,
weixugc@google.com, baoquan.he@linux.dev, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
mhocko@kernel.org, ljs@kernel.org, roman.gushchin@linux.dev,
dave@stgolabs.net, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Vernon Yang <yanglincheng@kylinos.cn>,
stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: vmscan: don't count per-node proactive reclaim as memory pressure
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2026 18:21:23 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4cdb95f5-4140-4116-8247-c04f4b2a5c4c@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4yKSoCwcEDhtd=biKoUjUX9eTJJhFJGFAZWc=WsAyXycg@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Oct 05, 2026 at 02:30:36PM +0800, Barry Song wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2026 at 2:23 PM Vernon Yang <vernon2gm@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Vernon Yang <yanglincheng@kylinos.cn>
> >
> > When the cgroup has no memory pressure at all, writing to
> > /sys/devices/system/nodeX/reclaim triggers proactive reclaim on
> > NUMA node, causing increase in the writer cgroup's memory PSI.
> >
> > Due to this reclaim is performed in the context of the write(),
> > accounted as memory pressure on the writer, like
> > commit e22c6ed90aa9 ("mm: memcontrol: don't count limit-setting reclaim
> > as memory pressure"). This is unexpected, the phenomenon resembling
> > senpai will appear again.
> >
> > The Documentation/ABI/stable/sysfs-devices-node documentation also
> > notes that "This interface is equivalent to the memcg variant."
> >
> > This patch unifies the semantics of the memcg and node interfaces:
> > per-node proactive reclaim is no longer counted as memory pressure,
> > and the per-node proactive reclaim interface no longer produces
> > phantom pressure.
> >
> > I ran demo[1] that performs per-node proactive reclaim 10000 times
> > in qemu, writer cgroup memory.pressure as follows:
> >
> > without patch:
> >
> > some avg10=31.53 avg60=13.42 avg300=3.31 total=10602985
> > full avg10=31.53 avg60=13.42 avg300=3.31 total=10602985
> >
> > with patch:
> >
> > some avg10=9.59 avg60=3.41 avg300=0.81 total=2686221
> > full avg10=9.59 avg60=3.41 avg300=0.81 total=2686221
> >
> > [1] https://github.com/vernon2gh/app_and_module/tree/main/reclaim_node_psi
> >
> > Fixes: b980077899ea ("mm: introduce per-node proactive reclaim interface")
> > Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
> > Signed-off-by: Vernon Yang <yanglincheng@kylinos.cn>
> > ---
>
> This seems to be a valid concern. Personally, I don't like
> having the code depend on whether `__node_reclaim()` and
> `node_reclaim()` are called from proactive reclaim or page
> allocation.
>
> Can't we check whether `sc->proactive` is true? Am I missing
> something?
It is also fine to directly check `sc->proactive` in __node_reclaim().
I chose the current coding because a previous similar fix commit
e22c6ed90aa9 was written this way, and it is also very clear.
Of course, it depends on everyone's preference. If everyone prefers to
directly check `sc->proactive`, please let me know clearly. Thanks!
--
Cheers,
Vernon
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-05 10:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-05 6:22 Vernon Yang
2026-10-05 6:30 ` Barry Song
2026-10-05 10:21 ` Vernon Yang [this message]
2026-10-06 10:17 ` Barry Song
2026-10-06 12:32 ` Vernon Yang
2026-10-05 6:36 ` Andrew Morton
2026-10-05 10:10 ` Vernon Yang
2026-10-05 12:54 ` Andrew Morton
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