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From: Corrado Zoccolo <czoccolo@gmail.com>
To: Norbert van Bolhuis <nvbolhuis@aimvalley.nl>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: PROBLEM: CONFIG_NO_HZ could cause software timeouts
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 13:22:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4e5e476b0909030422m745af2e6mb8dd0148c2341e9d@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A9F9F64.5080305@aimvalley.nl>

Is XIP enabled? It seems that the xip_udelay is not very accurate, and
may be the cause of what you are seeing.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Norbert van
Bolhuis<nvbolhuis@aimvalley.nl> wrote:
>
> The problem occurs when e.g. drivers use time_after(jiffes, timeout).
>
> CONFIG_NO_HZ could make jiffies advance by more than 1.
> This is done by:
> tick_nohz_update_jiffies->tick_do_update_jiffies64->do_timer
>
> If drivers use a timeout value of jiffies+1,
> "time_after(jiffies, timeout)" will be true after 1 interrupt
> (given that it advances jiffies by at least 2).
>
> This is exactly what happens in cfi_cmdset_0002.c:do_write_buffer
> for our case (Powerpc MPC8313, linux-2.6.28, CONFIG_HZ=250, CONFIG_NO_HZ=y).
>
> do_write_buffer does the following:
>  unsigned long uWriteTimeout = ( HZ / 1000 ) + 1;
>  ...
>  timeo = jiffies + uWriteTimeout;
>  ...
>  for (;;) {
>  ...
>  if (time_after(jiffies, timeo) && !chip_ready(map, adr))
>   break;
>  if (chip_ready(map, adr)) {
>   xip_enable(map, chip, adr);
>   goto op_done;
>  }
>  UDELAY(map, chip, adr, 1);
>  }
>  /* software timeout */
>  ret = -EIO;
> opdone:
>  ...
>
> I've seen a few software timeouts after the for-loop
> looped only 13 times (= 13 us delay, i.s.o. the expected 1 ms). Typically
> our NOR flash (S29GL01GP) may need upto ~ 200 us to be ready.
>
> disabling CONFIG_NO_HZ fixes the problem.
> replacing time_after by a for-loop counter to loop max 1000 times
> also fixes the problem.
>
> the latest kernel seems to have the same problem.
>
> do I miss something here or is this a known problem of CONFIG_NO_HZ ?
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-03 11:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-03 10:50 Norbert van Bolhuis
2009-09-03 11:22 ` Corrado Zoccolo [this message]
2009-09-03 11:59   ` Norbert van Bolhuis
2009-09-05 18:19 ` Marcin Slusarz
2009-09-06  5:58   ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-06 10:11     ` Marcin Slusarz
2009-09-06  5:27 ` Pavel Machek

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