From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Aleksei Sviridkin <f@lex.la>
Cc: hkallweit1@gmail.com, linux@armlinux.org.uk, olteanv@gmail.com,
davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, kuba@kernel.org,
pabeni@redhat.com, horms@kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v2] net: phylink: unwind the PHY binding when bringup fails late
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2026 16:36:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4eedad70-0b77-432b-838f-eb11ca47af4e@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260919015338.499611-1-f@lex.la>
On Sat, Sep 19, 2026 at 04:53:38AM +0300, Aleksei Sviridkin wrote:
> phylink_bringup_phy() records the PHY in pl->phydev before its last
> fallible step: on a MAC whose phylink ops implement LPI,
> phy_eee_rx_clock_stop() can fail with a real MDIO error. The callers
> unwind with phy_detach(), which knows nothing about pl->phydev, so a
> pointer to a PHY that is no longer attached outlives the failed
> connect.
>
> What that costs depends on how the caller got here.
> phylink_connect_phy() goes through phylink_attach_phy(), which refuses
> to attach while pl->phydev is set, turning a transient MDIO error into
> a permanent -EBUSY. The SFP path is worse than that: sfp_sm_probe_phy()
> answers the failure with phy_device_remove() and phy_device_free(), and
> it assigns sfp->mod_phy only past that error return, so nothing clears
> pl->phydev and it is left pointing at a freed phy_device that
> phylink_resolve() and the ethtool helpers go on reading.
> phylink_fwnode_phy_connect() has no such check, so a later connect
> overwrites the stale pointer and hides the problem. A disconnect does
> not: phylink_disconnect_phy() hands that pointer to phy_disconnect(),
> and the second phy_detach() on the same PHY drops references the first
> one already released.
>
> Found while making a DSA port survive a PHY whose driver arrives after
> the switch probes: keeping the port across a failed connect and
> retrying is what makes this window reachable.
>
> Clear the binding on the failure path. This is the same operation
> phylink_disconnect_phy() performs, so both now share a helper. The
> PHY-side fields are left to phy_detach(), which every caller already
> runs on this path.
What is missing here is an explanation why you cannot record the PHY
in pl->phydev later, once all calls which can fail have been
performed. That seems like a simpler and more logical fix. But maybe
i'm missing something.
Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-20 14:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-19 1:53 Aleksei Sviridkin
2026-09-20 14:36 ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2026-09-20 22:20 ` Aleksei Sviridkin
2026-09-20 22:20 ` [PATCH net v3] net: phylink: record the PHY only once bringup cannot fail Aleksei Sviridkin
2026-09-24 16:50 ` patchwork-bot+netdevbpf
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