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From: Dirk Behme <dirk.behme@gmail.com>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Cc: "Dirk Behme" <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Anna-Maria Behnsen" <anna-maria@linutronix.de>,
	"Frederic Weisbecker" <frederic@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/14] hrtimer Rust API
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2024 18:18:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4f051c35-fb45-4f91-8daf-6ba53c8d4ab9@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Zv6WDYZHikCCpUlB@boqun-archlinux>

Am 03.10.24 um 15:03 schrieb Boqun Feng:
> On Thu, Oct 03, 2024 at 10:14:17AM +0200, Dirk Behme wrote:
>> Am 01.10.24 um 16:42 schrieb Boqun Feng:
>>> On Tue, Oct 01, 2024 at 02:37:46PM +0200, Dirk Behme wrote:
>>>> On 18.09.2024 00:27, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>
>>>>> This series adds support for using the `hrtimer` subsystem from Rust code.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried breaking up the code in some smaller patches, hopefully that will
>>>>> ease the review process a bit.
>>>>
>>>> Just fyi, having all 14 patches applied I get [1] on the first (doctest)
>>>> Example from hrtimer.rs.
>>>>
>>>> This is from lockdep:
>>>>
>>>> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/kernel/locking/lockdep.c#n4785
>>>>
>>>> Having just a quick look I'm not sure what the root cause is. Maybe mutex in
>>>> interrupt context? Or a more subtle one?
>>>
>>> I think it's calling mutex inside an interrupt context as shown by the
>>> callstack:
>>>
>>> ]  __mutex_lock+0xa0/0xa4
>>> ] ...
>>> ]  hrtimer_interrupt+0x1d4/0x2ac
>>>
>>> , it is because:
>>>
>>> +//! struct ArcIntrusiveTimer {
>>> +//!     #[pin]
>>> +//!     timer: Timer<Self>,
>>> +//!     #[pin]
>>> +//!     flag: Mutex<bool>,
>>> +//!     #[pin]
>>> +//!     cond: CondVar,
>>> +//! }
>>>
>>> has a Mutex<bool>, which actually should be a SpinLockIrq [1].
>>
>>
>> Two understanding questions:
>>
> 
> Good questions. ;-)

:-)

>> 1. In the main thread (full example for reference below [2]) where is the
>> lock released? After the while loop? I.e. is the lock held until guard
> 
> With the current implementation, there are two places the lock will be
> released: 1) inside CondVar::wait() and


CondVar::wait() releases *and* reaquires, the lock then? So that 
outside of CondVar::wait() but inside the while() loop the lock is 
held until the while loop is exit?

Would that lock handling inside CondVar::wait() handle the irq stuff 
(irq enable and disable) of SpinLockIrq correctly, then?


> 2) after `guard` is eventually
> drop after the loop.
> 
>> reaches 5?
>>
>> let mut guard = has_timer.flag.lock();   // <= lock taken here?
>>
>> while *guard != 5 {
>>       has_timer.cond.wait(&mut guard);
>> }                                                           // <= lock
>> released here?
>>
>> I wonder what this would mean for the interrupt TimerCallback in case we
>> would use an irq-off SpinLock instead here?
>>
>> Or maybe:
>>
>> 2. The only place where the guard is modified (*guard += 1;) is in the
>> TimerCallback which runs in interrupt context as we learned. With that
>> writing the guard value can't be interrupted. Couldn't we drop the whole
>> lock, then?
>>
> 
> No, because the main thread can run on another CPU, so disabling
> interrupts (because of the interrupt handlers) doesn't mean exclusive
> access to value.

Yes. I agree if the main thread would write. But that main thread does 
read-only accesses, only? So it reads either the old or the new value, 
indepenent on the locking? Only the interrupt handler does 
read/modify/write. But thats protected by the interrupt context, already.

Dirk


>> Best regards
>>
>> Dirk
>>
>>
>> [2]
>>
>> //! #[pin_data]
>> //! struct ArcIntrusiveTimer {
>> //!     #[pin]
>> //!     timer: Timer<Self>,
>> //!     #[pin]
>> //!     flag: Mutex<u64>,
>> //!     #[pin]
>> //!     cond: CondVar,
>> //! }
>> //!
>> //! impl ArcIntrusiveTimer {
>> //!     fn new() -> impl PinInit<Self, kernel::error::Error> {
>> //!         try_pin_init!(Self {
>> //!             timer <- Timer::new(),
>> //!             flag <- new_mutex!(0),
>> //!             cond <- new_condvar!(),
>> //!         })
>> //!     }
>> //! }
>> //!
>> //! impl TimerCallback for ArcIntrusiveTimer {
>> //!     type CallbackTarget<'a> = Arc<Self>;
>> //!     type CallbackPointer<'a> = Arc<Self>;
>> //!
>> //!     fn run(this: Self::CallbackTarget<'_>) -> TimerRestart {
>> //!         pr_info!("Timer called\n");
>> //!         let mut guard = this.flag.lock();
>> //!         *guard += 1;
>> //!         this.cond.notify_all();
>> //!         if *guard == 5 {
>> //!             TimerRestart::NoRestart
>> //!         }
>> //!         else {
>> //!             TimerRestart::Restart
>> //!
>> //!         }
>> //!     }
>> //! }
>> //!
>> //! impl_has_timer! {
>> //!     impl HasTimer<Self> for ArcIntrusiveTimer { self.timer }
>> //! }
>> //!
>> //!
>> //! let has_timer = Arc::pin_init(ArcIntrusiveTimer::new(), GFP_KERNEL)?;
>> //! let _handle = has_timer.clone().schedule(Ktime::from_ns(200_000_000));
>> //! let mut guard = has_timer.flag.lock();
>> //!
>> //! while *guard != 5 {
>> //!     has_timer.cond.wait(&mut guard);
>> //! }
>> //!
>> //! pr_info!("Counted to 5\n");
>> //! # Ok::<(), kernel::error::Error>(())
>>
>>
>>
> [...]


  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-03 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-17 22:27 Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] rust: time: Add Ktime::from_ns() Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] rust: hrtimer: introduce hrtimer support Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-18 18:13   ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-19  5:43     ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-19 14:09       ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-23 16:35         ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-23 16:59           ` Benno Lossin
2024-10-10 12:24             ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] rust: sync: add `Arc::as_ptr` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-19 14:03   ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-21 15:58     ` Gary Guo
2024-09-21 18:17       ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-23  8:14       ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-01  4:56     ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-01  8:39       ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] rust: sync: add `Arc::clone_from_raw` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-18 18:19   ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-18 20:12     ` Gary Guo
2024-09-18 21:09       ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-19  6:00       ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-19 14:15         ` Benno Lossin
2024-09-20  8:25           ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-19  5:54     ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-19  6:19       ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-19  6:41         ` Alice Ryhl
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] rust: hrtimer: implement `TimerPointer` for `Arc` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] rust: hrtimer: allow timer restart from timer handler Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-20 14:25   ` kernel test robot
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] rust: hrtimer: add `UnsafeTimerPointer` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] rust: hrtimer: implement `UnsafeTimerPointer` for `Pin<&T>` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] rust: hrtimer: implement `UnsafeTimerPointer` for `Pin<&mut T>` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] rust: hrtimer: add `hrtimer::ScopedTimerPointer` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] rust: hrtimer: allow specifying a distinct callback parameter Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] rust: hrtimer: implement `TimerPointer` for `Pin<Box<T>>` Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] rust: hrtimer: add `schedule_function` to schedule closures Andreas Hindborg
2024-09-17 22:27 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] rust: hrtimer: add maintainer entry Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-12 15:19   ` Boqun Feng
2024-09-30  9:36 ` [PATCH v2 00/14] hrtimer Rust API Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-10-04 10:47   ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-01 12:37 ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-01 14:42   ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-03  8:14     ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-03 13:03       ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-03 16:18         ` Dirk Behme [this message]
2024-10-11 14:52     ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-11 15:43       ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-11 23:21         ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-12  5:19           ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-12  7:41             ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-12  7:50               ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-12 22:26                 ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-13 17:39                   ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-13 21:06                     ` Boqun Feng
2024-10-14  6:58                       ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-14  9:17                         ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-10-14  9:38                         ` Alice Ryhl
2024-10-14 11:53                           ` Dirk Behme
2024-10-14 11:58                             ` Alice Ryhl

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