From: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
To: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>, <x86@kernel.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
H Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>, Babu Moger <Babu.Moger@amd.com>,
<shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
D Scott Phillips OS <scott@os.amperecomputing.com>,
<carl@os.amperecomputing.com>, <lcherian@marvell.com>,
<bobo.shaobowang@huawei.com>, <tan.shaopeng@fujitsu.com>,
<xingxin.hx@openanolis.org>, <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
Jamie Iles <quic_jiles@quicinc.com>,
Xin Hao <xhao@linux.alibaba.com>, <peternewman@google.com>,
<dfustini@baylibre.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 15/24] x86/resctrl: Allow arch to allocate memory needed in resctrl_arch_rmid_read()
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 16:04:46 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4f7facea-ffc4-63c3-b960-fa92eb03b04c@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8ba79ccf-a1e0-d486-178c-5dfb6553a400@arm.com>
Hi James,
On 8/24/2023 9:56 AM, James Morse wrote:
> Hi Reinette,
>
> On 09/08/2023 23:37, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>> On 7/28/2023 9:42 AM, James Morse wrote:
>>> Depending on the number of monitors available, Arm's MPAM may need to
>>> allocate a monitor prior to reading the counter value. Allocating a
>>> contended resource may involve sleeping.
>>>
>>> add_rmid_to_limbo() calls resctrl_arch_rmid_read() for multiple domains,
>>> the allocation should be valid for all domains.
>>>
>>> __check_limbo() and mon_event_count() each make multiple calls to
>>> resctrl_arch_rmid_read(), to avoid extra work on contended systems,
>>> the allocation should be valid for multiple invocations of
>>> resctrl_arch_rmid_read().
>>>
>>> Add arch hooks for this allocation, which need calling before
>>> resctrl_arch_rmid_read(). The allocated monitor is passed to
>>> resctrl_arch_rmid_read(), then freed again afterwards. The helper
>>> can be called on any CPU, and can sleep.
>
>> Looking at the error paths all the errors are silent failures.
>
> Yeah, I don't really expect this to ever fail. The memory arm64 needs to allocate is
> smaller than a pointer - if that fails, I think there are bigger problems. The hardware
> resource is something the call will wait for.
>
> As you note, it's hard to propagate an unlikely error back from here.
>
>
>> On the
>> failure in mon_event_read() this could potentially be handled by setting
>> the "err" field in struct rmid_read ... at least then the caller can print
>> an error instead of displaying a zero count to the user.
>
> Sure, that covers the one a human being might see.
Right.
>> The other failures are harder to handle though.
>
> I don't think the silent failure is such a bad thing. For the limbo handler, no RMID moves
> between the lists until the handler is able to make progress.
ok, so it needs to ensure that the handler is still rescheduled
when such a failure is encountered.
> For the overflow handler, its possible an overflow will get missed (I still have an
> overflow interrupt I can use here). But I don't think this will be the biggest problem on
> a machine that is struggling to allocate 4 bytes.
As I now (I think) better understand for MPAM it is 4 bytes of memory as well as
reservation of a hardware resource. Could something go wrong attempting to find an
available hardware resource that as you state later is indeed scarce? I wonder if
it would not be helpful to at least have resctrl log an error from the
places where it is not possible to propagate the error.
>> Considering that these contexts are allocated and
>> freed so often, why not allocate them once (perhaps in struct rdt_hw_domain?)
>> on driver load with clear error handling?
>
> Because the resource they represent is scarce. You may have 100 control or monitor groups,
> but only 10 hardware monitors. The hardware monitor has to be allocated and programmed
> before it can be read.
I think I misunderstood what "context" is when I wrote the above. I
was thinking about memory allocation that can be done early and
neglected to connect the "context" to be an actual hardware resource.
> This works well for the llc_occupancy counter, but not for bandwidth counters, which with
> the current 'free running' ABI have to all be allocated and programmed at the beginning of
> time. If there are enough monitors to do that - the MPAM driver will, and these
> allocate/free calls will just be looking up the pre-allocated/pre-programmed monitor.
> Doing the allocation like this keeps that logic in the mpam driver, and allows concurrent
> access to resctrl_arch_rmid_read(), which is something any future PMU support will need.
>
> I don't have any numbers how many monitors any platform is going to have, but I'm
> confident there are some that won't have enough for each control-group or monitor-group to
> have one.
Right. My question was not relevant to what this change does. Sorry for the noise.
Reinette
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-08-24 23:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-07-28 16:42 [PATCH v5 00/24] x86/resctrl: monitored closid+rmid together, separate arch/fs locking James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 01/24] x86/resctrl: Track the closid with the rmid James Morse
2023-08-09 22:32 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-08-24 16:50 ` James Morse
2023-08-15 0:09 ` Fenghua Yu
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 02/24] x86/resctrl: Access per-rmid structures by index James Morse
2023-08-09 22:32 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-08-24 16:51 ` James Morse
2023-08-25 0:29 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 03/24] x86/resctrl: Create helper for RMID allocation and mondata dir creation James Morse
2023-08-09 22:32 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 04/24] x86/resctrl: Move rmid allocation out of mkdir_rdt_prepare() James Morse
2023-08-15 0:50 ` Fenghua Yu
2023-08-24 16:52 ` James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 05/24] x86/resctrl: Allow RMID allocation to be scoped by CLOSID James Morse
2023-08-09 22:33 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-08-15 1:22 ` Fenghua Yu
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 06/24] x86/resctrl: Track the number of dirty RMID a CLOSID has James Morse
2023-08-09 22:33 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-08-24 16:53 ` James Morse
2023-08-24 22:58 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-08-30 22:32 ` Tony Luck
2023-08-14 23:58 ` Fenghua Yu
2023-08-15 2:37 ` Fenghua Yu
2023-08-24 16:53 ` James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 07/24] x86/resctrl: Use set_bit()/clear_bit() instead of open coding James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 08/24] x86/resctrl: Allocate the cleanest CLOSID by searching closid_num_dirty_rmid James Morse
2023-08-15 2:59 ` Fenghua Yu
2023-08-24 16:54 ` James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 09/24] x86/resctrl: Move CLOSID/RMID matching and setting to use helpers James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 10/24] tick/nohz: Move tick_nohz_full_mask declaration outside the #ifdef James Morse
2023-08-09 22:34 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-08-24 16:55 ` James Morse
2023-08-25 0:43 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-09-08 15:58 ` James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 11/24] x86/resctrl: Add cpumask_any_housekeeping() for limbo/overflow James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 12/24] x86/resctrl: Make resctrl_arch_rmid_read() retry when it is interrupted James Morse
2023-08-09 22:35 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-08-24 16:55 ` James Morse
2023-08-24 23:01 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-09-08 15:58 ` James Morse
2023-09-08 20:15 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 13/24] x86/resctrl: Queue mon_event_read() instead of sending an IPI James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 14/24] x86/resctrl: Allow resctrl_arch_rmid_read() to sleep James Morse
2023-08-09 22:36 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-08-24 16:56 ` James Morse
2023-08-24 23:02 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-09-08 15:58 ` James Morse
2023-09-08 20:15 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 15/24] x86/resctrl: Allow arch to allocate memory needed in resctrl_arch_rmid_read() James Morse
2023-08-09 22:37 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-08-24 16:56 ` James Morse
2023-08-24 23:04 ` Reinette Chatre [this message]
2023-09-15 17:37 ` James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 16/24] x86/resctrl: Make resctrl_mounted checks explicit James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 17/24] x86/resctrl: Move alloc/mon static keys into helpers James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 18/24] x86/resctrl: Make rdt_enable_key the arch's decision to switch James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 19/24] x86/resctrl: Add helpers for system wide mon/alloc capable James Morse
2023-08-17 18:34 ` Fenghua Yu
2023-08-24 16:57 ` James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 20/24] x86/resctrl: Add cpu online callback for resctrl work James Morse
2023-08-09 22:38 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 21/24] x86/resctrl: Allow overflow/limbo handlers to be scheduled on any-but cpu James Morse
2023-08-09 22:38 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-08-24 16:57 ` James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 22/24] x86/resctrl: Add cpu offline callback for resctrl work James Morse
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 23/24] x86/resctrl: Move domain helper migration into resctrl_offline_cpu() James Morse
2023-08-09 22:39 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-07-28 16:42 ` [PATCH v5 24/24] x86/resctrl: Separate arch and fs resctrl locks James Morse
2023-08-09 22:41 ` Reinette Chatre
2023-08-24 16:57 ` James Morse
2023-08-18 22:05 ` Fenghua Yu
2023-08-24 16:58 ` James Morse
2023-08-03 7:34 ` [PATCH v5 00/24] x86/resctrl: monitored closid+rmid together, separate arch/fs locking Shaopeng Tan (Fujitsu)
2023-08-24 16:58 ` James Morse
2023-08-22 8:42 ` Peter Newman
2023-08-24 16:58 ` James Morse
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