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From: Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@cam.ac.uk>
To: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: 2.4.2 ext2 filesystem corruption ? (was 2.4.2: What happened ? (No
Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 13:49:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010307130210.00a25180@pop.cus.cam.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3AA5B0F3.143E0528@candelatech.com>
In-Reply-To: <E14aGFU-0000YQ-00@the-village.bc.nu>

At 03:54 07/03/01, Ben Greear wrote:
>Alan Cox wrote:
> > Its not a bug. As the system administrator you reconfigured a hard disk on
> > the fly and shit happened. The hdparm man page warnings do exist for a 
> reason.
>
>I'm not arguing it was a smart thing to do, but I would think that the
>fs/kernel/driver writers could keep really nasty and un-expected things
>from happenning.  For instance, the driver could dis-allow any new 
>(non-hdparm) writes while hdparm is doing it's test.  Or maybe the driver 
>could realize it was being told to do something that would break and just 
>not do it?

No. This would be against Linux/Unix philosphy of giving you enough rope. 
Maybe I want to break my hd? You never know. Or maybe the same commands 
work perfectly well on a different hd/controller? In general, if you don't 
understand the consequences of something you want to do, then *don't* do 
it! Or at least have a backup handy and don't complain afterwards...

>Considering this disk is my root disk, is there *any* safe way to test
>out hdparm on this disk?

Of course. Boot/change into single user mode, sync, and remount any 
readwrite mounted fs readonly. Then it should be safe to check things out 
with hdparm, at least I have done it this way for ages and never run into a 
problem even though in my early stage of hdparm experimentation I would 
cause kernel crashes more often then not... Chances are that if readonly 
works fine, so will write, so once I find the fastest settings that still 
give 100% reliability on reads I switch back to normal network multi user 
mode and try read-write. Never failed me so far but YMMV, so keep a backup...

Best regards,

Anton


-- 
Anton Altaparmakov <aia21 at cam.ac.uk> (replace at with @)
Linux NTFS Maintainer / WWW: http://sourceforge.net/projects/linux-ntfs/
ICQ: 8561279 / WWW: http://www-stu.christs.cam.ac.uk/~aia21/


  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-03-07 13:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-03-05  5:21 2.4.2 ext2 filesystem corruption ? (was 2.4.2: What happened ? (No such file or directory)) Frédéric L. W. Meunier
2001-03-06  6:49 ` Ben Greear
2001-03-06 12:07   ` 2.4.2 ext2 filesystem corruption ? (was 2.4.2: What happened ? (No Alan Cox
2001-03-07  3:54     ` Ben Greear
2001-03-07 12:57       ` Alan Cox
2001-03-08  5:40         ` Ben Greear
2001-03-08  5:34           ` Alexander Viro
2001-03-08  6:32             ` 2.4.2 ext2 filesystem corruption ? (was 2.4.2: What happened ?(No Ben Greear
2001-03-08  6:21               ` Alexander Viro
2001-03-08 20:30                 ` God
2001-03-08 21:31                   ` Alexander Viro
2001-03-08 20:10               ` God
2001-03-08 20:37                 ` Andre Hedrick
2001-03-08 21:04                 ` Roman Zippel
2001-03-08 20:34           ` 2.4.2 ext2 filesystem corruption ? (was 2.4.2: What happened ? (No Oliver Xymoron
2001-03-07 13:49     ` Anton Altaparmakov [this message]
2001-03-06 10:14 ` 2.4.2 ext2 filesystem corruption ? (was 2.4.2: What happened ? (No such file or directory)) SteveC

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