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From: Roberto Fichera <kernel@tekno-soft.it>
To: Ingo Oeser <ingo.oeser@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de>
Cc: David Schwartz <davids@webmaster.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Developing multi-threading applications
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:17:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20020617094803.00a96bd0@mail.tekno-soft.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020615123016.M22429@nightmaster.csn.tu-chemnitz.de>

At 12.30 15/06/02 +0200, Ingo Oeser wrote:

>On Sat, Jun 15, 2002 at 11:01:44AM +0200, Roberto Fichera wrote:
> > >         Even if that's true, and it's often not, how many different 
> types
> > > of data
> > >acquisition can you have? Ten? Twenty? That's a far cry from 300.
> >
> > Currently are 190! Always active are ~110! So thinking by separating 
> I/O from
> > the computation we double the threads.
>
>So basically you are just traversing your data depedency graph
>wrongly. Do a level order traversion if it is a dependency forest
>or an breadth first traversion if not.

Ok! I've semplified too much ;-)!

>If this node require IO -> schedule the IO and return back to the upper
>level noticing it, that you like to be woken, if the IO is
>finished.
>
>If this node require Computation -> do it, if this CPU is the one with
>lowest load, else schedule it for the CPU with lowest load.

How can I do it ? Shouldn't be a kernel problem ? I could collect
a various patch around that implement a CPU process bind/affinity and
CPU load balance but how can I determine which CPU have the lowest
load in a given time ?

>Continue with next node.
>
>(load is meant "number of compuations with same metric scheduled
>on this thread")
>
>Use only one thread per CPU. Try to make the IO-Waiting as unique
>as possible (poll would be perfect).

This could be implemented by the process affinity to bind the
process to a CPU. But I continue to not hunderstand why
I must have only one thread per CPU. There is some URL
where can I see some kernel/sched/vm/I-O/other-think graph about
this point ?


>So this is all doable, once you analyze your data dependency
>graph properly and make the simulation data driven (which it
>usally is).
>
>Regards
>
>Ingo Oeser
>--
>Science is what we can tell a computer. Art is everything else. --- D.E.Knuth

Roberto Fichera.


  reply	other threads:[~2002-06-17  8:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-13  8:13 Roberto Fichera
2002-06-13  8:26 ` David Schwartz
2002-06-13  9:08   ` Roberto Fichera
2002-06-13  9:44     ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-13  9:52       ` Roberto Fichera
2002-06-13 10:16         ` Peter Wächtler
2002-06-13 10:42           ` Roberto Fichera
2002-06-13 10:13     ` David Schwartz
2002-06-13 11:21       ` Roberto Fichera
2002-06-13 11:58         ` David Schwartz
2002-06-13 16:26           ` Roberto Fichera
2002-06-14 20:56             ` David Schwartz
2002-06-15  9:01               ` Roberto Fichera
2002-06-15 10:30                 ` Ingo Oeser
2002-06-17  8:17                   ` Roberto Fichera [this message]
2002-06-17 16:07                     ` Marco Colombo
2002-06-17 18:00                       ` Roberto Fichera
2002-06-17 18:55                       ` Jakob Oestergaard
     [not found] <20020613113158.I22429@nightmaster.csn.tu-chemnitz.de>
2002-06-13 10:25 ` Roberto Fichera

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